[Two Ravens]

Yes kids die of cancer, but in the scheme of eternity I don’t know how that would make a giant difference.

The topic at hand is whether or not nature provides evidence of being teleological; the concept of eternity is irrelevant to that discussion.

The fact that infants die of cancer is extremely relevant however, as compelling evidence that nature is not teleological in character.

[tpanther]

“The topic at hand is whether or not nature provides evidence of being teleological; the concept of eternity is irrelevant to that discussion.”

Only if you demand it be, but most folks understand there’s beyond nature and outside of natural science.

In a fallen world, infants also die in car wrecks, but this doesn’t mean everything we know isn’t automatically without design.

[tpanther]

“The topic at hand is whether or not nature provides evidence of being teleological; the concept of eternity is irrelevant to that discussion.”

Only if you demand it be, but most folks understand there’s beyond nature and outside of natural science.

In a fallen world, infants also die in car wrecks, but this doesn’t mean everything we know isn’t automatically without design.