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Tobacco tax going up (Florida)
Cape Coral DB ^ | MCKENZIE CASSIDY

Posted on 06/20/2009 2:47:51 PM PDT by Drango

Convenience stores and smoke shops are urging Cape Coral residents to stock up on cigarettes and other tobacco products before the state implements a $1 tobacco user fee on July 1.

Perhaps one of the most publicized bills that passed the Florida Legislature this spring, the $1 user fee is levied against standard packs of 20 cigarettes and for other tobacco products - such as pipe or chewing tobacco - the surcharge will be 60 percent of the wholesale price.

The measure is designed to combat teenage smoking and incidences of cancer associated with smoking, yet purveyors of tobacco and habitual smokers aren't looking forward to the fee's effect on their wallets. Local tobacco sellers are especially worried about the extra dollar per pack.

Laura Ring, co-owner of the Cape Smoke Shop on Del Prado Boulevard, said the fee will put the price of cigarettes well over $5 per pack and some regular customers could disappear.

"It is terrible. It is going to put a real strain on our business. There will be a lot more people trying to quit," said Ring.

Florida families and businesses spend $6.2 billion annually on tobacco-related products while each household spends an average of $586 per year, according to reports. Ring said she isn't sure if the user fee will cause people to quit, but the shop is hoping that it doesn't lose too many of its customers in the process.

"We aren't sure yet, you can never tell with people who say they are going to quit. Some do, some don't," said Ring. "We are hoping for the best."

Over the last month, the state's Division of Alcoholic Beverages and Tobacco has implemented the new law by educating stores and businesses that sell tobacco.

"We are going to educate all parties involved and make sure they have the correct paperwork," said Alexis Lambert, spokesperson for the Division of Alcoholic Beverages and Tobacco. "We also have teams out."

After July 1, the agency will periodically audit businesses throughout the state to ensure that all of the tax money has been paid. So far there hasn't been any backlash against the implementation of the law in the community, said Lambert.

Of course, the user fee isn't effective until next month and before that cigar companies pushed hard to have Florida-rolled cigars removed from the bill. They claimed it would result in the loss of thousands of jobs.

State Sen. Ted Deutch, D-Boca Raton, introduced the legislation into the 2009 session. He said the legislation will prevent 300,000 teenagers from picking up a cigarette.

"This legislation has always been a public health initiative. All of the research shows the best way to prevent kids from taking up smoking is to make cigarettes cost more," said Deutch.

For the last two years, Deutch and some of his colleagues not only worked on drafting the legislation, but also on convincing other legislators that it was to improve public health. He said that $1.3 billion is spent annually in Florida's Medicaid program to treat patients with health problems resulting from tobacco use - although the smoking population only contributes $400 million into Medicaid.

The user fee is expected to detract smokers from lighting up, but it will also assist the state with severe budget shortfalls. During the 2009 legislative session the state reported a $3 billion shortfall and after its first year the tobacco fee will generate an estimated $950 million, said Deutch.

All of these funds will go directly into the state's $2.8 billion health budget. Officials from the Lee Memorial Health System, who supported the user fee in April, said it would benefit KidCare and Medicaid's Medically Needy or Aged and Disabled programs.

A portion of the tobacco money will also be used for cancer research.

"Of that money, $50 million annually will be invested in cancer research here in Florida so we have the opportunity to come up with new treatments and possibly a cure," said Deutch.

The only tobacco products that aren't under the legislation's umbrella are cigars. According to Deutch, cigars were included in the original legislation but were removed in mid-session because the $2 billion cigar industry is such a large component of the state economy.

There are more cigar companies statewide - a majority in Miami or Tampa - than any other part of the United States. Even though cigars were stricken from the bill, taxing cigarettes will still have the most significant impact on reducing smokers, he said.

Recently, the Lee County Health Department was awarded a $610,000 grant to form a local tobacco coalition called Tobacco Free Lee. It will include local residents, agencies such as the Lee County School District and Lee County Health Department, and national organizations like the American Cancer Society or American Lung Association.

On June 25 the health department will host a training program for students and community residents working against tobacco. There are a number of local issues that the coalition will tackle.

"We have more female smokers than men," said Brendan Donohue, tobacco program specialist. "We want to make sure there are interventions each time a woman goes to a physician in Lee County."

Physician interventions include health screenings, information on the dangers of smoking and referrals to tobacco cessation services. Smokers can receive five free sessions with a counselor through the Florida Quitline and free nicotine replacement products.

It will address the marketing of tobacco products to teenagers and chewing tobacco to employees who work in a smoke-free business.

"Flavored products are going to be addressed, because that appeals to children," said Donohue. "Tobacco companies seem to be promoting chewing tobacco more because it gets around not being able to smoke indoors."

Many businesses in Lee County have already gone smoke-free. The Lee Memorial Health System announced Friday that it will be tobacco free by Nov. 19.

In early June, the U.S. Congress passed a far-sweeping piece of legislation that empowers the Food and Drug Administration to demand changes to cigarette ingredients and marketing campaigns. Both houses passed the measure, which is expected to be signed later this month by President Barack Obama.

The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act grants the FDA power to regulate the chemicals or nicotine content in cigarettes and bans colorful tobacco advertisements in convenience or grocery stores. It's also designed to combat teen smoking by as much as 11 percent over the next decade, according to the Congressional Budget Office.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: nannystate; smoking; wod
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To: DJ MacWoW

There used to be a libtard anti gun group here in Michigan that used the same tactic of doing it for the children. They called themselves “People who care about children”.

They used the same pathetic tactic of claiming that only people who didn’t care about kids wanted to allow the demon guns to roam free in our society.


41 posted on 06/20/2009 4:50:09 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: cripplecreek
Maybe that's where Hillary heard it.

I cannot remember anyone in the 50's behaving as if they had a right to control someone else.

42 posted on 06/20/2009 4:55:43 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

>> They don’t want anyone to quit.

Bingo! Ain’t it great when they tax the lower classes?


43 posted on 06/20/2009 4:55:54 PM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: QBFimi

I can’t believe that so few people have caught on to the scam.


44 posted on 06/20/2009 5:04:34 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: MaxMax

Nice starts. I would post a pic of my crop for this year, that is if I knew how to post a pic. What variaty is that. I’m growing Havana this year.


45 posted on 06/20/2009 5:12:54 PM PDT by DaveinOK54 (Freedom is not Free and I'll never quit defending it. Join resistnet.com)
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To: DJ MacWoW

A local smoke shop here is selling a house blend of “pipe tobacco” with a fine cut that works just fine for rolling cigarettes. It gets around the loose cigarette tobacco tax and brings the price back down to where it was before the 2200% increase.

My neighbor said he’s going to mention it to the smoke shop near his place in florida when he gets back down there. Apparently the smoke shop here is doing a booming business with the so called pipe tobacco. LOL


46 posted on 06/20/2009 5:24:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Venturer; wombtotomb; MaxMax; Waco; Giddyupgo; DaveinOK54; kevao; GRRRRR; arbee4bush

I love these threads. It gives me the chance to post to smokers here about the little fun device called the E-Cigarette.

Today is my 4th week without smoking after 30 years, and I never even expected to quit. I was going to grow my own tobacco, but the seeds never came up. I went to this site..
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com
And took the plunge.

Here’s a few threads on it.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2272541/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2269993/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2264255/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2260171/posts
Please read and enjoy.
You see, unlike SOME people..
I refuse to belittle those who smoke and praise an increase of taxes on a product because, “It doesn’t effect me, so I don’t care.”
I’m pinging you folks to make the friendly suggestion that there is an alternative out there.
And...

It’ll put a kink into Obama’s plans.

(Pinging others who’ve switched)


47 posted on 06/20/2009 5:26:18 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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To: cripplecreek
Entrepreneurial spirit at it's best!

Actually that's when Americans are at their best, during adversity.

48 posted on 06/20/2009 5:32:19 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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BTW, Here's my ecig collection so far:



And I print out little cards to give folks. I've gone through 4 sheets in 3 weeks.

The forum website is on the backs of the cards.
49 posted on 06/20/2009 5:33:11 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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To: cripplecreek

Oh, that’s too bad.
SOMEONE here will mention this to the feds, no doubt.
And put an end to THAT ride.
Loose lips...


50 posted on 06/20/2009 5:34:38 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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To: RandallFlagg

It will require a whole new law which buys a couple of years anyway.


51 posted on 06/20/2009 5:37:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: DaveinOK54
I've got three varieties, Common smoking, Burley and Virginia. And I have about 50 more
seedlings that I'm trying to get rid of because there's no more room.
I've planted myself into a corner.
52 posted on 06/20/2009 5:45:12 PM PDT by MaxMax (America's population is 304-Million. Obama must punish America for the other 4.7 Billion)
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To: RandallFlagg

bump


53 posted on 06/20/2009 6:08:31 PM PDT by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: MaxMax

Virginia and Havana is what I usually grow. I have grown some Monte Calme Yellow as well, but the year I tried that was really wet and things did not turn out so well. Common Smoking is one I haven’t heard of, but that’s not saying much, there are thousands of variaties out there. I try to just grow one variaty each year as to keep from any cross pollenation occuring. It’s alot of work, but I love sticking to ‘em. The plants are beautiful. Have about 100 out this year. Good luck with your crop this year.


54 posted on 06/20/2009 6:09:31 PM PDT by DaveinOK54 (Freedom is not Free and I'll never quit defending it. Join resistnet.com)
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To: RandallFlagg
So what,buy cigarettes from Russia or Europe.No tax folks!Been doing it for years.Save yourself the tax burden.
55 posted on 06/20/2009 6:12:45 PM PDT by taxtruth
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To: cripplecreek
eurocheapcigarettesforyou.com.The states have no jurisdiction in international commerce.
56 posted on 06/20/2009 6:21:02 PM PDT by taxtruth
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To: RandallFlagg
I love these threads. It gives me the chance to post to smokers here about the little fun device called the E-Cigarette.

EXCELLENT. Tell us all on FR how you found freedom in addiction.

57 posted on 06/20/2009 7:02:57 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango
EXCELLENT. Tell us all on FR how you found freedom in addiction.

Sure. As soon as you tell us all how you can find such joy from increases in taxes.
I notice that your opinion is vastly outnumbered on these tobacco threads, BTW. Gives me great hope that the majority view on this subject isn't gone into oblivion.

I wonder if you would have complained about Bostonians being addicted to tea, and cheering the tax increases of THAT leafy substance as well.
58 posted on 06/20/2009 7:25:25 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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To: RandallFlagg
I notice that your opinion is vastly outnumbered on these tobacco threads, BTW

Here's what counts: 307 - 97

And I noticed you didn't tell us how you found freedom in addiction.

59 posted on 06/20/2009 7:37:36 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Glenn

In many places a “tax” requires a super majority while a “user fee” does not. Don’t know about Florida.

All the tax money and user fees collected on tobacco products all go to fund programs that will not disappear if everyone quits using tobacco products. Where will the money come from to fund those programs then?


60 posted on 06/20/2009 7:51:49 PM PDT by Train Collector (Socialism only works until you run out of other people's money - Margaret Thatcher)
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