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Tobacco tax going up (Florida)
Cape Coral DB ^ | MCKENZIE CASSIDY

Posted on 06/20/2009 2:47:51 PM PDT by Drango

Convenience stores and smoke shops are urging Cape Coral residents to stock up on cigarettes and other tobacco products before the state implements a $1 tobacco user fee on July 1.

Perhaps one of the most publicized bills that passed the Florida Legislature this spring, the $1 user fee is levied against standard packs of 20 cigarettes and for other tobacco products - such as pipe or chewing tobacco - the surcharge will be 60 percent of the wholesale price.

The measure is designed to combat teenage smoking and incidences of cancer associated with smoking, yet purveyors of tobacco and habitual smokers aren't looking forward to the fee's effect on their wallets. Local tobacco sellers are especially worried about the extra dollar per pack.

Laura Ring, co-owner of the Cape Smoke Shop on Del Prado Boulevard, said the fee will put the price of cigarettes well over $5 per pack and some regular customers could disappear.

"It is terrible. It is going to put a real strain on our business. There will be a lot more people trying to quit," said Ring.

Florida families and businesses spend $6.2 billion annually on tobacco-related products while each household spends an average of $586 per year, according to reports. Ring said she isn't sure if the user fee will cause people to quit, but the shop is hoping that it doesn't lose too many of its customers in the process.

"We aren't sure yet, you can never tell with people who say they are going to quit. Some do, some don't," said Ring. "We are hoping for the best."

Over the last month, the state's Division of Alcoholic Beverages and Tobacco has implemented the new law by educating stores and businesses that sell tobacco.

"We are going to educate all parties involved and make sure they have the correct paperwork," said Alexis Lambert, spokesperson for the Division of Alcoholic Beverages and Tobacco. "We also have teams out."

After July 1, the agency will periodically audit businesses throughout the state to ensure that all of the tax money has been paid. So far there hasn't been any backlash against the implementation of the law in the community, said Lambert.

Of course, the user fee isn't effective until next month and before that cigar companies pushed hard to have Florida-rolled cigars removed from the bill. They claimed it would result in the loss of thousands of jobs.

State Sen. Ted Deutch, D-Boca Raton, introduced the legislation into the 2009 session. He said the legislation will prevent 300,000 teenagers from picking up a cigarette.

"This legislation has always been a public health initiative. All of the research shows the best way to prevent kids from taking up smoking is to make cigarettes cost more," said Deutch.

For the last two years, Deutch and some of his colleagues not only worked on drafting the legislation, but also on convincing other legislators that it was to improve public health. He said that $1.3 billion is spent annually in Florida's Medicaid program to treat patients with health problems resulting from tobacco use - although the smoking population only contributes $400 million into Medicaid.

The user fee is expected to detract smokers from lighting up, but it will also assist the state with severe budget shortfalls. During the 2009 legislative session the state reported a $3 billion shortfall and after its first year the tobacco fee will generate an estimated $950 million, said Deutch.

All of these funds will go directly into the state's $2.8 billion health budget. Officials from the Lee Memorial Health System, who supported the user fee in April, said it would benefit KidCare and Medicaid's Medically Needy or Aged and Disabled programs.

A portion of the tobacco money will also be used for cancer research.

"Of that money, $50 million annually will be invested in cancer research here in Florida so we have the opportunity to come up with new treatments and possibly a cure," said Deutch.

The only tobacco products that aren't under the legislation's umbrella are cigars. According to Deutch, cigars were included in the original legislation but were removed in mid-session because the $2 billion cigar industry is such a large component of the state economy.

There are more cigar companies statewide - a majority in Miami or Tampa - than any other part of the United States. Even though cigars were stricken from the bill, taxing cigarettes will still have the most significant impact on reducing smokers, he said.

Recently, the Lee County Health Department was awarded a $610,000 grant to form a local tobacco coalition called Tobacco Free Lee. It will include local residents, agencies such as the Lee County School District and Lee County Health Department, and national organizations like the American Cancer Society or American Lung Association.

On June 25 the health department will host a training program for students and community residents working against tobacco. There are a number of local issues that the coalition will tackle.

"We have more female smokers than men," said Brendan Donohue, tobacco program specialist. "We want to make sure there are interventions each time a woman goes to a physician in Lee County."

Physician interventions include health screenings, information on the dangers of smoking and referrals to tobacco cessation services. Smokers can receive five free sessions with a counselor through the Florida Quitline and free nicotine replacement products.

It will address the marketing of tobacco products to teenagers and chewing tobacco to employees who work in a smoke-free business.

"Flavored products are going to be addressed, because that appeals to children," said Donohue. "Tobacco companies seem to be promoting chewing tobacco more because it gets around not being able to smoke indoors."

Many businesses in Lee County have already gone smoke-free. The Lee Memorial Health System announced Friday that it will be tobacco free by Nov. 19.

In early June, the U.S. Congress passed a far-sweeping piece of legislation that empowers the Food and Drug Administration to demand changes to cigarette ingredients and marketing campaigns. Both houses passed the measure, which is expected to be signed later this month by President Barack Obama.

The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act grants the FDA power to regulate the chemicals or nicotine content in cigarettes and bans colorful tobacco advertisements in convenience or grocery stores. It's also designed to combat teen smoking by as much as 11 percent over the next decade, according to the Congressional Budget Office.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: nannystate; smoking; wod
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To: Drango; RandallFlagg

Where is your link to that? Until you post a link, it’s just a claim that you make and nothing more.


221 posted on 06/22/2009 1:20:53 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Drango

I never said I did. You are a liar, and I challenge you to prove that I DID say such a thing.

You have NO allies in this. None.

You’re no conservative.


222 posted on 06/22/2009 1:22:00 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Indeed.


223 posted on 06/22/2009 1:23:40 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Drango
"No I agree with the underlined part as fact."-Drango, post 162.

What part was underlined?
"because the $2 billion cigar industry is such a large component of the state economy."-from post 155

You agree that it is about MONEY.
That is incontrovertible, undeniable, and QUOTED.
You cannot sidle out of it, it is in black and white for all to see.

224 posted on 06/22/2009 1:29:36 PM PDT by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: Drango

Ran away yet?


225 posted on 06/22/2009 1:31:20 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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To: Drango
Drango you are making an allusion that is incorrect. Actually it's a lie. No one on this thread has said such a thing.

Why don't you answer questions that you've been asked?

Post 170

Tell me Drango, are you this passionate about teen drinking? Alcohol kills more teens than smoking. Can you name a teen that died from smoking? Bet you can name plenty that died because of drinking.

Here's a new one, why do you think you have the right or authority to control other people's children using government and taxes against the parents?

226 posted on 06/22/2009 1:32:08 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW; Drango
Nothing in here gives him or government that right.
227 posted on 06/22/2009 1:37:07 PM PDT by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: RandallFlagg; Drango

Gone in a puff of smoke?


228 posted on 06/22/2009 1:40:15 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Darksheare; Drango

Most liberals have never read that.


229 posted on 06/22/2009 1:40:55 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW; RandallFlagg; Drango

Until his buddies on twitter/aim/ICQ feed him some talking points.


230 posted on 06/22/2009 1:41:06 PM PDT by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: DJ MacWoW; Drango

Most liberals don’t understand the concept of “shall not be infringed”.
Nor do they understand the concept of ‘private’ property.


231 posted on 06/22/2009 1:42:58 PM PDT by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: TheOldLady
So if the substance is non-addictive

Addiction label is emotional term saying more about person using it than about the effects of smoking. Dependence on some substance or a habit is not a criterion for deciding whether the substance/habit is good or bad for you. There is nothing wrong in being dependent on something that is good for you. We are all dependent on air, water, food, tooth brushing, bathing, family, reading, FR,... and myriad other things we consider good for us. Labeling anything someone is dependent on for their well being as "addiction" merely says you disapprove of substance or habit in question.

and small doses are possible, it would have the opposite effect from large doses. One cigarette a day would be not only all right, but also beneficial.

As matter of fact, the beneficial effects of tobacco smoke increase well into several packs a day. In animal experiments (such as those discussed here or here or here), the test animals were exposed to tobacco smoke just below the asphyxiation level (equivalent to 5+ packs/day, packed within 6 hour/day continuous smoking sessions), yet they still lived longer than non-smoking animals under variety of other co-exposures (e.g. simultaneous exposures to industrial pollutants and carcinogens). After six decades of massive research efforts and thousands of animal experiments, they still don't know how to make tobacco smoke inhalation cause any harm at all (short of asphyxiating animals, but with that "method" one can show that water is toxic, or anything else from your kitchen or fridge). To their horror, all they could discover, no matter how they twisted and turned it around, is that smoking animals live longer (~20%), stay thinner (~15%) and mentally sharper into the old age.


232 posted on 06/22/2009 1:49:05 PM PDT by nightlight7
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To: Darksheare

They don’t seem to get the idea that one shouldn’t accuse someone of something without proof.

Being called a coward doesn’t phase them, they know it to be true.


233 posted on 06/22/2009 1:50:11 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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To: RandallFlagg

They don’t like being quoted either.


234 posted on 06/22/2009 1:53:07 PM PDT by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: nightlight7; RandallFlagg; Darksheare; DJ MacWoW

Nightligt-
Don’t feel bad that others on this thread when given the chance, didn’t stand tall for you. I think you have a wining point and strongly urge you to make the argument that smoking is “good for you”


235 posted on 06/22/2009 1:55:27 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Darksheare

Yep. Their tripping on their own words seems to burn a hole in them, so they must hide.

I was being cordial and polite before.

But that ends.


236 posted on 06/22/2009 1:56:04 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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To: nightlight7; Drango

nightlight7, the last thing you need is a cowardly, big government liberal on your side.


237 posted on 06/22/2009 1:57:08 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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To: Drango; nightlight7; RandallFlagg; Darksheare

Divide and conquer may work on libs but not on FR. Drango that was pathetic. How old are you? Seriously.


238 posted on 06/22/2009 1:59:10 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Drango
"No I agree with the underlined part as fact."-Drango, post 162

What part was UNDERLINED?
"because the $2 billion cigar industry is such a large component of the state economy."-from post 155

239 posted on 06/22/2009 2:01:09 PM PDT by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: Drango; nightlight7; RandallFlagg; DJ MacWoW
Drango still cannot weasel out of what he said.
And Drango, quoting you is enough backing for anyone to receive when dealing with libtard control freak trolls bent on controlling others as per your own tagline.
Drango's tagline: "A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet."

Drango.... your post 162 admitting that it is about money:
"No I agree with the underlined part as fact."-Drango, post 162

What part was UNDERLINED?
"because the $2 billion cigar industry is such a large component of the state economy."-from post 155

240 posted on 06/22/2009 2:04:39 PM PDT by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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