[Uncle Chip]

So I'm assuming that line 2 translates into date and place of birth? Which is given as Honolulu and August 4, 1861? So if once accepts this as gospel proof of Obama's citizenship status then one would also have to accept his natural born status as well, right?

Not so. There is no equivalency there.

His alleged birthplace of Honolulu would not have been a requirement for entrance into the Indonesian school system and would have had no bearing whatsoever on his application for acceptance. His parents could have stated on that form that he was born in Timbuktu or on the planet Venus, and Indonesia would not have requested documentation or cared one iota about it. So a lie there would be inconsequential and irrelevant to his admission to the school.

On the other hand, his Indonesian citizenship would have been a substantive requirement for entrance into the system for which documentation would have to have been provided, especially given the fact that they stated that he was foreign born.

The fact that he was allowed into the Indonesian educational system at all, a system set aside for Indonesian citizens [not those born in Hawaii] is a compelling indication that his parents' statement regarding his Indonesian citizenship was true and they possessed and presented the documentation to back it up.

[John Valentine]

Uncle Chip, I fear you are wasting your breath on Non-Sequitur. As his name implies he has no commitment to finding conclusions that follow from fact and reason. He is a tendentious blowhard and is apparently committed to remaining one, come what may.