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To: ohioWfan

There are many Muslims whom I like and respect. I know people in Muslim governments who have been fighting off the Muslim brotherhood for years.

But, unless the Muslim masses are willing to leave their non-Muslim neighbors alone, you won’t have anything resembling freedom.

I hadn’t heard that Christians were moving back to Iraq. I thought just the opposite was happening, pretty much all over the Muslim world.

I must also say that, even among sophisticated, otherwise tolerant Muslims, I often see a strain of unabashed Jew-hatred that is just scary.


147 posted on 06/17/2009 9:22:34 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: lady lawyer
I guess the question I have for you, lady lawyer, is, even giving you all your points, does that mean that we shouldn't try to help ME countries establish democracies?

Let me just give the example of Iraq. AQI is still active, though it has been decimated by our troops, and it still targets Christians (for obvious reasons), but does that mean we shouldn't have helped build a government there that works toward freedom? Is the election in January, peaceful and successful with hundreds of candidates on the ballot elected by the people of Iraq meaningless? Should we have left Iraq on its own because Muslims supposedly don't want freedom?

Should we have allowed the Taliban to continue to stone women in Afghanistan, behead and brutalize people? Should we have not been involved in rebuilding that country on democratic principles because Muslims don't want freedom?

I understand the problem with Islam, but what is the point of saying that Muslims don't want freedom? Is the point that we should let them be ruled by oppressive and dangerous governments because that's what they really want? Did the Muslims in Iraq want to be tortured and forced to walk off buildings? Did the Muslim women in Afghanistan want to be tortured and murdered in public stadiums for entertainment? Do the Muslims in Iran want to be brutalized and murdered in the streets as they protest this election?

I guess I'd like to understand your point here. Should we leave them all alone and let them be a danger to the rest of the world? Or should we help them to try to establish free countries, even if their view of freedom may be entirely different from our own?

149 posted on 06/17/2009 11:29:28 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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