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To: ohioWfan
Stopping you right there. There is nothing "western" about understanding that we are all made in God's image. I'm talking about their souls, marshmallow, and not their culture or their (false) religion. I'm talking about the fact that the same God who created us, created them.

You'll get no argument from me there. But so what?

You need to remember one thing. Being God's creation does not mean we yearn for all that is good and righteous. We're fallen sons and daughters of Adam who are in constant need of God''s grace. We have free will. We can obscure the image of God by our own choices. That's why their longstanding religious culture makes your comments about them yearning for freedom mere pie-in-the-sky.

Furthermore, God made our souls for Him, not for democracy. There's nothing inherently Divine or salvific in the democratic process. Jesus does not imprint our souls with an innate love of pluralistic politics. Try not to confuse our eternal destiny and spiritual principles with American culture.

They're not the same.

138 posted on 06/16/2009 12:34:58 PM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: marshmallow
They're not the same.

Of course not.

And not one word you've said negates a single word I've said. You're arguing a parallel argument, making the points you want to make regardless of what I've said.

No point in this. We disagree. I believe the people in the ME are the same as we are in that they do not want to live in bondage but want the freedom to live as they choose, and you do not.

I do not believe that their culture and religion make them fundamentally, at the core, different from us nor inferior to us, and you do.

We are at an impasse, marshmallow.

But I will leave you with this thought. The people in Iran are proving me right and you wrong. The people in Iraq, living in their Iraqi-style democracy are proving me right and you wrong.

Argue away. I've made all the points I want to make.

139 posted on 06/16/2009 1:08:46 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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