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To: ohioWfan
Why would people in the ME desire bondage if given the opportunity to be free? Are they inferior human beings? Did God not create them in His image, as He did us?

You're way off base. You're applying western thinking and western ideas to a people who don't think the way we do. They look at life completely differently. To them, western ideas and western lifestyle are the true "bondage". They see "freedom" in a different light. To them, "freedom" means liberation from pornography, laissez-faire capitalism and immorality. To them, we are the slaves.

Why?

Because they have embraced a thoroughly oppressive form of religion which is based on a lie and which leads them to follow error. They profess a faith which does not respect human dignity and which enforces its precepts through threats, violence and intimidation. Democracy, freedom or whatever else we might want to sell them, is completely alien to their whole culture. We're talking about a well-entrenched 1,500 year tradition here.

Islam is their compass, not freedom. This is not Eastern Europe where a long history of Christianity was interrupted briefly by a three quarter century of atheist madness. There the Christian flame still burned. In Iran, we're talking about a place where Islam has been practiced for millenia. They've never been fussed about attaining our version of freedom.

BTW, Obi-wan has now spoken about Iran as I peruse CNN. I'm sure there's some problem with his words, though.

136 posted on 06/15/2009 8:50:08 PM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: marshmallow
Why would people in the ME desire bondage if given the opportunity to be free? Are they inferior human beings? Did God not create them in His image, as He did us?

You're way off base. You're applying western thinking and western ideas to a people who don't think the way we do.

Stopping you right there. There is nothing "western" about understanding that we are all made in God's image.

I'm talking about their souls, marshmallow, and not their culture or their (false) religion. I'm talking about the fact that the same God who created us, created them.

I don't think this conversation's going anywhere. You believe that people in the ME don't want to be free. You must also believe that women in the ME like being beaten for showing their ankles.

We are NEVER going to agree on this. Your bias against these people is too strong.

137 posted on 06/16/2009 11:24:18 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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