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To: rmlew

In reply to you and another writer, I do find Israel as a “Jewish state” undemocratic, oppressive, and by its very nature a bloody failure. Yes, I actually do question Israel’s ‘right to exist’ as a Jewish state. It’d be the same if we in the US allowed a religious group redefine the country as, for example, a Baptist state, then expected everybody to conform. It wouldn’t happen any more than Israel’s attempt to make a Jewish state upon land of mixed religions. It is bloody now, and will be worse as long as the current regime imposes itself upon Christian and Muslim—seizing lands, and worse. Yes, it is Christians being oppressed just as much as Muslim, even if not getting the same headlines. Israel practices apartheid and can only survive through ethnic cleansing (which many seem to support) or by changing (which isn’t very popular).

I’ve traveled to Israel in the past and found it horrific. This is not some extension of America that so many would like people to believe. I’d offer a more apt description but it’d surely get me banned...


47 posted on 06/14/2009 5:02:43 PM PDT by Matthew Weaver (America First.)
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To: Matthew Weaver
In reply to you and another writer, I do find Israel as a “Jewish state” undemocratic, oppressive, and by its very nature a bloody failure. Yes, I actually do question Israel’s ‘right to exist’ as a Jewish state. It’d be the same if we in the US allowed a religious group redefine the country as, for example, a Baptist state, then expected everybody to conform.

Aren't you a cute LIBERAL. Do you hold the Muslim nations to this or any standard? I doubt it.
But lets put aside your religious bias, for the moment. History and genetic test show that Jews remain essentially an ethnic group. Why are we not allowed a nation when others have one. Put aside the Jewish part for the second, why should B'nei Yisrael not have Eretz Yisrael, why would the Israelites not have Israel?
Or do you oppose all nation-states?

t’d be the same if we in the US allowed a religious group redefine the country as, for example, a Baptist state, then expected everybody to conform. It wouldn’t happen any more than Israel’s attempt to make a Jewish state upon land of mixed religions.
Please stop wasting our time and embarrassing yourself until you learn some facts about Israel.

It is bloody now, and will be worse as long as the current regime imposes itself upon Christian and Muslim—seizing lands, and worse.
What lant has it siezed since 1979? It has been giving up territory.

. Yes, it is Christians being oppressed just as much as Muslim, even if not getting the same headlines
Please do try to justify that.

. Israel practices apartheid and can only survive through ethnic cleansing (which many seem to support) or by changing (which isn’t very popular).
Isn't that what you want, the ethnic cleansing of Jews from Judea and Samaria?

I’ve traveled to Israel in the past and found it horrific. This is not some extension of America that so many would like people to believe. I’d offer a more apt description but it’d surely get me banned...
Did you go with a marxist group, a Muslim group, or with theological anti-Zionists? I too have been there and know that you are ignorant.

53 posted on 06/14/2009 5:43:14 PM PDT by rmlew ( The SAVE and GIVE acts are institutioning Corvee. Where's the outtrage!)
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To: Matthew Weaver
Is this your site http://theindependentview.com/
56 posted on 06/14/2009 6:01:05 PM PDT by rmlew ( The SAVE and GIVE acts are institutioning Corvee. Where's the outtrage!)
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To: Matthew Weaver

You know, there is something about a relative newbie who won’t write anything about himself on his homepage. Afraid too reveal too much about your true self? As soon as I saw the “America First” in your tagline, I knew where you were coming from. You are a Pat Buchanan type, with all the associated anti-semitism that generally goes along with that. You’re opinion, at least from this Freeper, will be totally disregarded as coming from a bad place with regard to Israel. Your true colors are showing.


63 posted on 06/14/2009 10:16:40 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Obama, a Fascist more than a Socialist, although he's both.)
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