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To: Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
I am not saying the GOP is doing anything right, I AM saying people have to step up and change it at the ballot boxes during the primaries -- where in many cases fewer than 10% even bother to show up and vote... so don't bitch about the state of the GOP or even the democratic party when people are too lazy to vote and then complain and place protest votes in the general election that give the exactly wrong result. Historically when they do it the democrats win.... If people would get off their rears and do something during the primaries we wouldn't have the same ole people sent to DC over and over again...

Nevada is a great example... people are afraid to go up against Harry Reid, he is extraordinarily unpopular in his own state, yet they cannot find anyone in either party to oppose him.... and here in Arizona we have one very weak candidate opposing McCain in the primary... he is ripe for the picking, actually had the gall to say last week that "in my fifth term I plan to concentrate on issues important to Arizona!!!!!!!!" soooooo after 30 freaking years he suddenly realizes he is representing the state of Arizona, the state he has rarely shown up in other than to vacation or hold townhalls with a hand-picked audience.

63 posted on 06/07/2009 12:27:02 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

“... so don’t bitch about the state of the GOP or even the democratic party when people are too lazy to vote and then complain and place protest votes in the general election that give the exactly wrong result. “

I’m not bitching about either faction, just describing the trajectory of one of them - - it’s going the way of the Whigs, and the RINOs are welcome to it. Perhaps it’s not that people are “too lazy”, but that they by and large realize that, as in Iran, only “nomenklatura candidates” who toe the line of the keepers and handlers @Rome-on-the-Potomac (now morphing into Caracas-on-the-Potomac) get past the Kabuki theater known as the “primary process”.
It’s amusing that people only now seem to be noticing that “our elected representatives” don’t even try to read the legislation that they are enacting. That’s been true for years; it’s only becoming more obvious now, as the time scale is reduced from weeks or days to hours, for the lobbyist_tool-written language in these bills to be voted into law.

Let the “centrist parties” do their thing, as they did in the 1850’s, trying to “put humpty dumpty back together again”, and failing miserably. When we get to the stage of “regime change” due to the abject failure of the existing order to find a pathway back to stability, perhaps there will be some point in participating in the rebuilding effort. Or perhaps the growing disorder will outlive us, and our descendants will have to deal with it when the time comes. That works for me too (Isaiah 57:1-2). Better expenditure of time and effort is to prepare the descendants (our children and grandchildren) through careful attention to their character formation and setting of life goals. At least that has some prospect of making a positive contribution.

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Sunday, June 07, 2009 3:31:39 AM · 51 of 67
Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek to Arizona Carolyn

@ Arizona Carolyn
Historically, the Republican party superceded the Whigs when the Democrat party fragmented over sectional differences and the slavery question. The Republican party is going the way of the Whigs because it has lost its moral compass and deteriorated into “Democrat-lite”. Complaining that departing conservatives who cast protest votes are the cause of the problem, rather than the symptom, will not change the problem. The RINO’s can have the dying carcass. Conservatives will look elsewhere.


68 posted on 06/27/2009 3:47:02 PM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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