[bdeaner]

I personally do not condone the murder of Tiller, because I think the person who murdered Tiller was not operating from principles of a "just war." Essentially, that is what the killer did -- go to war over abortion, and Tiller is a casuality in that war.

Generally, vigilante justice is not considered to be a just war.

But an interesting question is this: At one point would it become necessary to wage a "just war" against abortion? What would be those conditions? And who and by whom would it be waged? I'm not asking for answers necessarily, but just putting the question out there. It's something I've been thinking about.

Here is an interesting thread on just war theory.

I am not about to join some fringe para-military group. I think we still have political and legal avenues to remedy the injustice of abortion. It is far too premature to succumb to violence at this point, which could cause many more deaths than currently is the case with abortion. That's how I am thinking at the moment.

What bothers me is the way pro-death people talk about Tiller as a hero and a martyr. It seems to take a very sick person to see Tiller as a hero of anything. It is not mutually exclusive to see Tiller as a murderer AND, at the same time, to understand without question that abortion is murder. That is a pro-life stance. It is ALSO consisitent with a pro-life position to argue in favor of just war (and by implication the use of violence) against evil, including at some point, a war against abortion. It is a difficult question, with many moral complexities.

[bdeaner]

It is not mutually exclusive to see Tiller as a murderer AND, at the same time, to understand without question that abortion is murder.

CORRECTION: It is not mutually exclusive to see Tiller's killer as a murderer AND, at the same time, to understand without quesiton that abortion is murder.

[P-Marlowe]

I personally do not condone the murder of Tiller, because I think the person who murdered Tiller was not operating from principles of a "just war."

Tiller................ 60,000
Buchenwald.... 56,000
Dachau............ 36,000
Ted Bundy..............35
Roeder ......................1

Generally, vigilante justice is not considered to be a just war.

"Generally".

"Generally," one murder is enough to cause a man to forfeit his right to live.

Is abortion "murder"?