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Just as man can measure the effects of wind, air, and gravity, we can see evidence of God’s existence.

"If it can't be expressed in figures, it is not science; it is opinion." ---Robert A. Heinlein

Non-believers will choose to disbelieve regardless of the facts.

That's more than a little condescending, don't you think? All I care about (in this context) is facts. It's "believers" whose worldview is based on faith rather than facts...by definition.

In their finite minds, they will desire a “logical” explanation,

Why in the world would you put the word logical in quotes? For that matter, what's wrong with a logical explanation?

but history and God’s Word (yes, the Bible) reveals that they are not truly interested in knowing Him.

In other words, orthodox scholars have presented evidence (especially in modern times by way of technology, etc.) substantiating the historicity of the Bible, and yet, man simply chooses to reject the Lord.

You can assert that, but there's a wealth of evidence showing that the mythological events in the Bible are just that.

My hope is that our Creator will reveal Himself to you in a way that will bring about a personal relationship.

If I'm wrong and you're right I hope the same thing...but I don't think that's likely.

Best Wishes, TJI

The same to you as well.

58 posted on 06/04/2009 2:08:10 PM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. "Supernatural" is a null word. -- R A Heinlein)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Your post is a breath of fresh air! facts, logic and reason always trump faith.


63 posted on 06/04/2009 2:56:52 PM PDT by balls
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To: GL of Sector 2814; This Just In
"If it can't be expressed in figures, it is not science; it is opinion." ---Robert A. Heinlein

Which is only Heinlein's opinion.

That's more than a little condescending, don't you think? All I care about (in this context) is facts. It's "believers" whose worldview is based on faith rather than facts...by definition.

Our worldview is based on belief that the resurrection happened in fact, that it is true. Likewise, anyone else's worldview is based on their faith that what they believe is true and they also act in accordance to that.

Why in the world would you put the word logical in quotes? For that matter, what's wrong with a logical explanation?

Because it's not inherently logical. Non-believers like to hold up logic as opposed to faith, as if faith is by nature illogical, but it's not. If what God says is true, then the logical thing to do is believe it. What's "logical" depends on what premise you start from.

You can assert that, but there's a wealth of evidence showing that the mythological events in the Bible are just that.

Archaeology supports the Bible. If you do a google search of the topic, you will find more sources than you have time to read.

Also, your premise that the Bible is mythology is based on a preference and assumption that it IS myths but with no basis.

69 posted on 06/04/2009 8:11:14 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

“If it can’t be expressed in figures, it is not science; it is opinion.” -—Robert A. Heinlein”

In history, there have been scientific theories that were widely accepted only to become obsolete after new discoveries such as spontaneous generation and the flat Earth theory.

“That’s more than a little condescending....” And you’re not?

I quoted “logical” in this since because a logical assumption can depend on the issue being discussed. For instance, what is “rich” monetarily for some may not be “rich” for others.

The Assyrians had widely been written off my scholars as a mythical empire. That is, until the middle nineteenth century when it was discovered by Austen Henry Layard and Paul Emile Botta.

TJI


76 posted on 06/04/2009 11:08:49 PM PDT by This Just In
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