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To: donna
"Like everything else, the federal government should leave it to the states, but the Supreme Court won’t allow that. What do we do now?"

You got that right. It's the Supreme Court that forces issues like the right to life and recognition of natural marriage, to be Federalized instead of left to us to deal with via our institutions of self-government.

Libertarians ought not to oppose social conservatives on this.

Example: From 1791 (the adoption of the Constitution) to 1973, state legislators consistently favored laws curbing abortion as a corrupt practice throughout the 19th century.

Because of the ascendency of Christian social conservatives? No, because of the ascendancy of scientific progress and human rights: the recognition that the developing child is human pre-partum, and that every human needs protection from lethal abuse.

It was an anti-scientific and anti-human-rights Supreme Court which struck down ALL the laws in ALL 50 states in 1973 (even the unprincipled, permissive laws in California and NY) in order to MAKE it a Federal issue.

Thus Roe vs Wade was a victory of an imperial judiciary over an electorate which did not then, and does not now, want their society deformed by abortion on demand.

Notice the same tendency in the so-called Gay Marriage movement. Statewide electoral majorities always vote it down (30 - 0 so far, I believe) but the gay activists’ main strategy is to get courts to impose it against the popular will.

Thus both abortion and gay marriage violate the core interests of principled libertarians: the restraining of judicial despots, and the right of the American people to govern themselves.

79 posted on 06/02/2009 2:44:52 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The first duty of intelligent men of our day is the restatement of the obvious. " - George Orwell)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

You are so right. The courts have done the same with pornography and the biggest of all: God in the schools.


80 posted on 06/02/2009 2:48:45 PM PDT by donna (Gasoline usage: Demand dropped 9.6% in 2008; total decline from 2005 thru 2008 was 28%)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Thus both abortion and gay marriage violate the core interests of principled libertarians: the restraining of judicial despots, and the right of the American people to govern themselves.

So did Brown vs. Board of Education. You disagree with that ruling too?
81 posted on 06/02/2009 2:49:20 PM PDT by theknuckler_33
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