Hmmm. The shooter no doubt committed murder by our laws.
Whether he will be judged as a murderer by God may be an open question, and none of us know the answer.
In 1942 Reinhard Heydrich was killed in Prague in cold blood. Czech commandos committed what was by the law of the land murder. They were from a country that had surrendered and they were not in uniform. They did this because he was orchestrating the destruction of the Czech people. Did they kill a tyrant or commit murder or both? There is also the case of course of John Brown and slavery.
Yes we must obey our laws, until we can no longer live with the result of not obeying them.
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On principle we are agreed. On application, we might not be. In the case of the Czechs, they were “surrendered” by Neville Chamberlain, never given an opportunity or a say to determine their own fate. They were engaged in a war against oppression — during a time of declared war (WORLD war), and so acted accordingly.
On the other hand, John Brown broke the law, plain and simple. He may (or may not) have been morally right regarding slavery, but that did not justify the attempt at rebellion. I think it’s ironic to note that the SAME United States government that aauthorized Col. RObert E. Lee in 1858 to take Brown down at Harpers Ferry, less than 3 yrs later instigated a war to accomplish the same ends as Brown (or so they nobly claim).
In much the same way, the murderer of Tiller has acted inappropriately, unjustly, and illegally, as did Brown. We are NOT engaged in war (not yet anyway), and while there was provocation (the murder of the unborn can be seen no other way by a moral people), this does not justify an individual taking the law into his own hands, being judge, jury and executioner.
I for one, will NOT hold this person up as a hero. He is a criminal. What he has done has percipitated — or at least hastened — the coing persecution against Christians, gun owners, and any others who believe in “traditional” or “Conservative” values and governance. When we face this, we will have this murderer to thank in part.
I suggest we ALL get prepared. The next year and a half is likely to be quite tense and dangerous.
Not really. Chamberlain agreed to not fight over the Sudetenland. Hitler rolled in and the Czechs opted not to fight. Shortly thereafter Hitler called Czech President Benes into a meeting and gave him a diktat based on a threat to not only invade, but to bomb Prague flat just for the hell of it. President Benes gave in and the Czechs surrendered themselves. So the Czechs did indeed surrender to the Germans of their own accord, albeit under great duress.
They were engaged in a war against oppression — during a time of declared war (WORLD war), and so acted accordingly.
Per the Geneva Convention, they were not a combatant. Czechoslovakia never declared war on Germany.
On the other hand, John Brown broke the law, plain and simple. He may (or may not) have been morally right ..., but that did not justify the attempt at rebellion.
Take out the specifics and you could just as well be talking about John Adams or George Washington.
In much the same way, the murderer of Tiller has acted inappropriately, unjustly, and illegally, as did Brown. We are NOT engaged in war (not yet anyway), and while there was provocation (the murder of the unborn can be seen no other way by a moral people), this does not justify an individual taking the law into his own hands, being judge, jury and executioner.
If he were killing two year olds instead of babies, but it were legal for him to do so, would you still consider the killer wrong, or just illegal. My point is that unjust laws lead to illegal action by just people. We can argue about how unjust a law must be before each of us may consider our illegal actions just, but the underlying principle is that justice and legality are not one in the same.
I for one, will NOT hold this person up as a hero. He is a criminal. What he has done has percipitated — or at least hastened — the coing persecution against Christians, gun owners, and any others who believe in “traditional” or “Conservative” values and governance. When we face this, we will have this murderer to thank in part.
Perhaps, and that is a good point. However, the Left has never seemed to pay any price for the actions of its radicals.
I suggest we ALL get prepared. The next year and a half is likely to be quite tense and dangerous.
Good suggestion.