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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
The death mongers are now openly repeating Nazi rhetoric.

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Wesley Smith: Save Money by Killing the Sick - Euthanasia as Health Care Cost Containment

Given its source, a publication of Claremont McKenna College, not exactly a hotbed of radicalism, this article urging health care cost containment as a reason to legalize  euthanasia captures a  justification for assisted suicide that is ever lurking in the background of the debate. From “The Economic Argument for Euthanasia,” by Charlie Sprague:

America has serious health care problems, and as Paul Krugman makes clear in a recent column, serious cost control in the health care industry needs to be a top priority in reform. President Obama and Congressional Democrats seem poised to push for major health care reform in the upcoming months. One idea that politicians on neither the left nor the right will touch due to political sensibilities, however, could be the easiest way to save billions of dollars without affecting health care quality at all: legalizing euthanasia.

As every good CMCer with an understanding of economics should know, those with terminal illnesses are resource sinks for society. End of life care is incredibly expensive due to the frequency of hospitalizations, the increased need for specialists’ attention, etc. Those with terminal illnesses have even more expensive health care needs. Obviously, those in the final stages of a terminal illness are no longer in any position to contribute economically to society. Their continued existence may be personally meaningful to the those who love them, but from a economic perspective they are all cost and no benefit.

If this is a parody, it just proves the Smith Maxim on Satire and the Culture of Death: They always catch up to you. Look how Oregon Medicaid has already denied chemotherapy to cancer patients but offered to pay for their assisted suicides.  Moreover, some real euthanasia supporters have already made the argument. Thus, Derek Humphry and Mary Clement adopted the save-money-by-killing-the-sick argument, on page 333 of their book,  Freedom to Die:

A rational argument can be made for allowing PAS [physician-assisted suicide] in order to offset the amount society and family spend on the ill, as long as it is the voluntary wish of the mentally competent terminally and incurably [note: not the same thing as terminal] ill adult. There will likely come a time when PAS becomes a commonplace occurrence for individuals who want to die and feel it is the right thing to do by their loved ones. There is no contradicting the fact that since the largest medical expenses are incurred in the final days and weeks of life, the hastened demise of people with only a short time left would free resources for others. Hundreds of billions of dollars could benefit those patients who not only can be cured but also want to live.

And don’t forget the radical environmentalists are looking toward instituting increased abortion and euthanasia as a way of reducing human population and “saving the planet.”  Alas: This article may be a parody, but it is already behind the times.


103 posted on 06/21/2009 4:27:06 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: paltz; Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Women are given the "choice" to kill babies while neither the baby's nor the father's wishes are even considered.

Thread by paltz.

Childless on Father's Day-Abortion clinics scapegoat dads

Some kids will be surprising their fathers with breakfast in bed this weekend, while others will present a gift inscribed with the phrase, "world's best dad." Some men, though, will only be reminded of the heartache from losing the opportunity to become fathers. They are the third victims of abortion.

The story of a man abandoning a woman after getting her pregnant has become the stereotypical image of pro-abortion activists and some pro-lifers. The male shirker is central to the abortion storyline and often is used to rationalize taking the life of a baby. . .

104 posted on 06/21/2009 4:31:08 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: All; wagglebee

“Wesley Smith: Save Money by Killing the Sick - Euthanasia as Health Care Cost Containment”

A good resource for warning the public by calling talk shows, writing a letter to the editor, etc. to get them to call their politicians before it’s too late.

If Obama”care” is ever passed, it will probably never be reversed.


108 posted on 06/21/2009 6:04:31 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: wagglebee; BykrBayb; 8mmMauser; Lesforlife; Dominick; Dante3; Sun
This is no parody. Apparently, down the street from scientology HQ in Clearwater, FL, a major hospital is already rationing health care by sending ER patients home without a diagnosis causing worsening of condition CARDIAC ARREST, lack of oxygen, i.e. the works now. They made someone comatose recently: NOW feeding tube, respirator, hydration somewhere else.

I strongly advise everyone to avoid this major hospital. The prettier the grounds and the newer the buildings don't be fooled. Rationing and malpractice are acceptable there to pass as medical treatment. In 2003, this is the ER that wouldn't let Terri in. This is where Mikey Schiavo used to work.

I have my own examples which shall remain confidential. I'm sure thousands thought they were at the best facility in the area. NOT!

I recommend HCA hospitals instead if you want real medical care. If you want to be rationed go to downtown Clearwater or visit their N. Clwtr facility if you're interested in neglect leading to death. Again, pretty buildings don't mean quality medical treatment, especially in Terri's county.

116 posted on 06/24/2009 7:04:29 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Obama's Health Care Plan Puts the "you" in euthanasia.)
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