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2 Democrats (Kennedy and Baucus) Spearheading Health Bill Are Split
New York Times ^ | May 29, 2009 | Robert Pear

Posted on 05/29/2009 7:11:32 PM PDT by reaganaut1

A significant split has developed between the two Democratic senators leading efforts to remake the nation’s health care system. They disagree over the contours of a public health insurance plan, the most explosive issue in the debate.

One of the senators, Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts, reasserting himself after months of treatment for brain cancer, made clear this week that he favored a robust public health care plan, a government-sponsored entity that would compete with private insurers.

As a starting point for his bill, Mr. Kennedy favors a public plan that looks like Medicare, the government-run program for older Americans created in 1965, when he was a young senator.

By contrast, Senator Max Baucus, the Montana Democrat who is chairman of the Finance Committee, has been working for months with the panel’s senior Republican, Charles E. Grassley of Iowa, in the hope of forging a bipartisan bill, which would probably play down the option of a public plan.

Mr. Grassley opposes creation of a new government insurance program and says “we cannot afford the public health plan we have already,” referring to Medicare.

President Obama has championed a public plan, saying it would help “keep the private sector honest,” though he has indicated he will be flexible on the details.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: 111th; baucus; bhohealthcare; healthcare; publicoption; socializedmedicine; tedkennedy

1 posted on 05/29/2009 7:11:32 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

Nothing like having a drunkard with Korsakov’s syndrome and a brain tumor totally restructure your nation’s medical care system. Maybe after this triumph, the Lion in the Winter can overhaul DUI and rape laws.


2 posted on 05/29/2009 7:16:45 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Palin/Bachman 2012: Conservative Viagra)
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To: reaganaut1

Divided?

Perhaps now is our chance to divide and conquer.

These liberals are not the unified force that the liberal media normally tries to present them as.


3 posted on 05/29/2009 7:19:45 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (Barack Obama is a tax predator and for now we are not protected)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

In 1980 the MSM was a Gordian knot of Leftist lies until,like Alexander the Great,RR cut the mendacity in two and awakened a sleeping America.

The Big Government GOP has allowed the knot to re-tie and we have only minority media figures to challenge the perfidious tangle that agains threatens the freedom of America.

The Republican Party is now the cowardly Judenrat in the Liberal ghettos enabling the enslavement of patriots who had no one other than them to vote for.

Hard to shoot two lions when your gun-bearer runs at the first shot.


4 posted on 05/29/2009 7:31:42 PM PDT by Happy Rain (From the concentration camps to America come the dying conservative cries of "We told you so!")
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To: reaganaut1

“They disagree over the contours of a public health insurance plan, the most explosive issue in the debate.”

Those contours of nuances will get you every time. Especially if there is no gravitas to sustain the nuancing contours.


5 posted on 05/29/2009 7:34:10 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Spay or Neuter your liberal today!)
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To: reaganaut1
Mr. Grassley opposes creation of a new government insurance program and says “we cannot afford the public health plan we have already,” referring to Medicare.

I don't often agree with Grassley, but he makes a great point that Republicans should be to death. Or have universal health care forced upon us.

6 posted on 05/29/2009 7:37:11 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: WorkingClassFilth

If Kennedy had to rely on nationalized health care he would have died already. But of course his kind would never have to rely on it.

Sort of like his support for alternative energy wind farms - just as long as they’re not located where he likes to go sailing.


7 posted on 05/29/2009 7:42:22 PM PDT by OpeEdMunkey (We seem to have reached a critical mass of stupid people.)
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To: reaganaut1

Read this - in Britain a Baroness Wornack is saying that elderly people with dementia have a “duty to die”.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2983652/Baroness-Warnock-Dementia-sufferers-may-have-a-duty-to-die.html


8 posted on 05/29/2009 10:28:50 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: reaganaut1

The only real argument left is if they call it TeddyCare or ObamamessiahflipflopLiarMarxistCare...


9 posted on 05/30/2009 3:26:34 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: OpeEdMunkey

What is missing from the discussion is acknowledgement by congressional leaders that they receive their health care via the Federal Employees Program (FEP). The FEP is a Blue Cross Blue Shield national account, the largest in fact. It is “private insurance”, under the BCBSA umbrella. So, if Americans “demand” a “public plan” just like the ferderal employees get, they are demanding private insurance. Go figure....


10 posted on 05/30/2009 4:57:50 AM PDT by astounded (The democrat party is a clear and present danger to America.)
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To: astounded
The FEP is a Blue Cross Blue Shield national account, the largest in fact. It is “private insurance”, under the BCBSA umbrella.

I never knew that.

11 posted on 05/30/2009 2:29:42 PM PDT by OpeEdMunkey (We seem to have reached a critical mass of stupid people.)
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To: Happy Rain

What I had in mind was a deluge of phonecalls to the so called blue dogs.

They’ve proven to be peel-offable in some areas. Especially in the house.


12 posted on 05/31/2009 5:01:38 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (Barack Obama is a tax predator and for now we are not protected)
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To: reaganaut1

Of course, when Kennedy needed life saving treatment, he was quickly flown down to NC to receive the best care. I wonder how many patients got bumped for him to be seen.


13 posted on 05/31/2009 5:22:47 PM PDT by New Girl
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To: long hard slogger; FormerACLUmember; Harrius Magnus; hocndoc; parousia; Hydroshock; skippermd; ...


Socialized Medicine aka Universal Health Care PING LIST

FReepmail me if you want to be added to or removed from this ping list.


14 posted on 06/01/2009 6:07:24 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: reaganaut1

Did you hear that Baucus is warning lobbyists not to speak with the Republicans as this would be “war”. Looks like Baucus wants to ram through the Dem socialized medicine plan with no discussion. How can a state like Montana vote for a liberal like Baucus?


15 posted on 06/11/2009 4:21:58 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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