The Democrats and Republicans of today are not the Democrats and Republicans of 50, 100, or 150 years ago. The parties have changed quite a bit over time. A large part of why immigrants voted for Democrats in the past was machine politics and patronage jobs, not only people like Boss Tweed but Frank "I am the Law" Hague. I have family that lived in Hague's Jersey City and they know he was a crook but he also maintained law and order and seemed to take care of people. Before Roosevelt, that sort of stuff was primarily local.
The Democrats offer immigrants services and benefits from a paternalistic government, something many of the immigrants experienced in their home countries. The same applies to today's immigrants. They are in favor of universal health care, national pensions, and big government.
Earlier waves of immigrants in the period you mentioned a moment ago were, for the most part, not fleeing countries with helpful paternalistic governments that benefitted them. They were often trying to get out and start over.
I can only speak for myself. What have I said that was snide or bigoted? As for this mythical assumption that many minorities are socially conservative, the facts say otherwise. The out of wedlock birthrates for Hispanics is 50% topped only by the black rate of 68%.
Not you in particular but look at the thread. And sometimes it's not intentional but simply sends the wrong message. For example, I understand why some conservatives hold Randy Weaver up as an example but a white supremacist is not the best poster child if you want to convince minorities you aren't a bigot.
I also dispute your generalization that snide and bigoted remarks are part of the normal discourse on the right. This is the Dem caricature.
I don't think they are normal but I think they happen and I think they get tolerated here a lot more than they used to. And it only takes one drop of crap to spoil the soup. Best to keep it as far away as possible.
So what are they today?
A large part of why immigrants voted for Democrats in the past was machine politics and patronage jobs, not only people like Boss Tweed but Frank "I am the Law" Hague. I have family that lived in Hague's Jersey City and they know he was a crook but he also maintained law and order and seemed to take care of people
I grew up in Jersey City in the 40s and 50s. My grandfather was a ward healer for Hague and my mother worked at Margret Hague hospital where I was born. We received our free turkey from the Mayor every Thanksgiving. Yes, the old political machines took care of the people despite being corrupt. The Daley machine in Chicago is still based on that model.
Earlier waves of immigrants in the period you mentioned a moment ago were, for the most part, not fleeing countries with helpful paternalistic governments that benefitted them. They were often trying to get out and start over.
European socialism was a reality. In the 1920 election, 38% of the Jewish vote went to Eugene Debs.
I don't think they are normal but I think they happen and I think they get tolerated here a lot more than they used to. And it only takes one drop of crap to spoil the soup. Best to keep it as far away as possible.
Care to provide a few examples.