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Nuke just has to explode in space to destroy a country
The Heritage Foundation ^ | April 10, 2009 | James Jay Carafano, Ph.D.

Posted on 05/26/2009 5:56:11 PM PDT by LiveFreeOrDieUSA

Sunlight fills the bedroom. It's past 8 a.m., and it's cold. Why didn't the alarm go off? The bathroom lights are out. The house is without power. The battery-operated radio plays nothing but static. The phone is dead. What on earth has happened?

In fact, what happened was not on Earth. It was above it. A nuclear weapon has detonated high over North America, an explosion so far up that neither the flash nor bang disturbed anyone slumbering in darkened bedrooms across the United States. Electrical systems and computers from New York City to San Francisco cease to function. City streets turn into chaos. Fires break out, and no communications are available to send trucks to fight them. The sick and injured perish in overwhelmed, energy-sapped hospitals. Survivors, unable to fill their gas tanks, slowly walk away from the dead zone, unsure where to go or what they will find.

This scenario may sound like the plot of a science-fiction movie, but Bill Graham, former science adviser to President Reagan, says it's a realistic portrayal of what would happen to the United States after a massive electromagnetic pulse from a nuclear explosion.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: apocalypse; bhonukes; country; emp; heritagefoundation; nuke; nukes; proliferation; tm
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To: Hank Kerchief
What damages a PCB is static discharge. An emp induces a current in a conductor. It will have no effect at all on transistors not connected to something in which a current can be induced electro-magnetically.

Yes but wouldn't you say it is possible for a charged capacitor on the board could provide current to a coil that could be over-energised by an EMP? Also, possible is a battery to keep memory hot on a shelf spare could allow the board to be blown.

121 posted on 06/23/2009 11:49:15 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Hank Kerchief
I think this is a bit overblown. Most telephone networks are hardened in a number of ways from earthquakes to emp and lightening. The grid takes literally 10s of thousands of lightning strike every year, each with the power of a small nuclear bomb with only local minor disturbances if any. (Lightning causes real problems, but those are direct hits.) (Yes, I do know the difference between a static discharge and electro-motive (magnetic) impulse.

You say that like you have never been at a telephone switch site that has been hit by lightening. I know you acknowledged that direct hits cause real problems but a M/W tower is the best lightening rod you could ever ask for and they do get hit often. We have a devil of a time restoring from that sometimes. I'll never forget George talking about the giant ball lightening that went charging down the cable run from the M/W Radio room! Or the time the Fiber techs found lightening jumped from the trunk of a tree over to the buried fiber cable and found the single copper strand, provided for the techs to use a butt-set between handholds, which burned like a fuse and crystallized the fiber for several hundred yards. Every time there is a major over build or system installation the grounding engineers arrive on site to check for differences of potential between ground grids and planes.

You are correct that we are hardened, but we still feel an impact from time-to-time.

I was originally trained as a Military Tech Controller so I got the Defense Communications Agency version of EMP effects when we still had vacuum tubes and only the earliest PC's built into test equipment. I have to agree that we wouldn't loose everything, but I think the impact could be a lot worse than you think, simply because we can't know every effect a real EMP might have. But I am much less fearful than the Chicken Littles that think all modern technology will be destroyed.

122 posted on 06/23/2009 12:34:44 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: ArrogantBustard

My thinking is that the breakers won’t protect local circuits but should prevent nation wide propagation as described by others on the thread. I would think that over distance, the pulse would widen lengthening the rise time. Once again, not protecting local circuits but preventing the nation wide destruction of the grid.


123 posted on 06/23/2009 1:30:40 PM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: calex59

“While I am glad our military and a few other agencies are gearing up against an EMP, if they were such a threat the Soviets would have used them years ago to take us out. They didn’t and you have to ask yourself why.”

I’m afraid you just don’t understand the former Soviet Union’s tactical doctrine. Using a nuclear device as an EMP weapon is merely the precusor to a conventional attack.
In the cold war, when we captured Soviet equipment, we were often surprised that they still relied on vaccuum tube technology verses transistors. Originally it was thought this indicated they were technologically inferior. Later the thinking turned to that they intentionally kept their equipment crude because these type devices are the least prone to EMP damage.

In today’s age of microprocessors, we have things that are extremely vulnerable to EMP. Just small induced currents in these devices can fry them.

Whatever, the Soviet Union’s doctrine was to use a very high altitude & high yield thermonuclear device to disrupt our communications before launching a conventional attack.

Can rogue nations (i.e. Korea or Iran) use a device to disrupt us? Probably not for some time. They don’t have the means of delivery yet or weapons of the yield necessary to generate a strong field. Plus, as you point out, they don’t have the forces to followup with a conventional attack on our interests. So, they would cause havoc, but initiate their own destruction in the long run.


124 posted on 06/23/2009 2:52:39 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: vanilla swirl
A SCUD-like missile isn't going to carry a nuke big enough or fly high enough to carry an EMP bomb that could damage our nation. Those need ICBMs.

Furthermore, under the Single Integrated Operations Plan, if the U.S. is under attack, all potential enemies of the U.S. could be attacked. Do you think the Russians or Chinese would tolerate annihilation because the Dear Leader wanted a shot?

SCUDs are not for EMP nukes.

125 posted on 06/23/2009 4:32:47 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: higgmeister

Hi higgmeister,

It’s been loing time since I was in a switching office, but I was in It and telephony for a long time, and it sounds like your are too.

My point was, as you obviously know, if EMP has an effect, it just cannot take out everything, because there are too many diverse sources of energy and communication in this county, such as the fact the so much of the telephone system is now fiber-optic.

The situations you describe, by the way, are static discharges (which are actually much more powerful than any EMP pulse thus far imagined) and as sever as they are, most communications survives them or reovers rather quickly.

Enjoyed your comments, by the way.

Hank


126 posted on 06/23/2009 7:05:34 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: higgmeister

It’s been a long time since I was in a switching office, though I’ve been in everything from stepping switches, to crossbar, and many digital switching offices. I’ve seen offices of every kind temporarily disabled by lightning strikes, but that is very different from EMP, I think.

Anyway, just wanted to say I appreciated your comments, and understand exactly where you are coming from. EMP is a threat, but I’m with you that it is like almost everything else designed to scare the bajesus out of everyone, way overblown.

Thanks for the interesting comments.

Hank


127 posted on 06/24/2009 5:44:27 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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