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1 posted on 05/24/2009 8:56:04 PM PDT by Joiseydude
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The link to the WND article doesn’t work. Has it been pulled from thier website?


113 posted on 05/25/2009 9:21:22 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( Don't mess with the mockingbird! /\/\ http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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Whoa.....doesn’t this say that the Feds cannot go after journalist types? NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND?

What am I missing?


119 posted on 05/25/2009 9:52:02 AM PDT by DissentFromDayOne (www.Dissent-From-Day-One.com)
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That bill will never get past SCOTUS, its totally unconstitutional.

But what am I thinking, SCOTUS is neutered and no longer protecting the constitution.


120 posted on 05/25/2009 9:53:43 AM PDT by Danae (Amerikan Unity My Ass)
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"WASHINGTON – A bill approved by the House of Representatives and referred to the Senate would prohibit federal employees of executive branch from being compelled to release any document unless a court makes a specified determination by a preponderance of evidence – legislation at least one group suspects is designed to protect Barack Obama's elusive birth certificate from release."

This is WND doing what it always does, which is to take a portion of a document or story, and distort it to cause instant chagrin, and hype its readers into apoplexy. It is a deliberate lie.
This sentence has what is actually said in the bill exactly backwards, and anyone would do him/herself a favor by NOT using, or counting on, WND as a reliable source for information.
This bill is to protect NON federal entities from being compelled by Federal entities to reveal that which is private. And if you would read read it to completion, it protects communications between private citizens, networks, and communications companies as well.
It is protection FROM federal government, not FOR it.

Free Flow of Information Act of 2009 - Prohibits a federal entity (an entity or employee of the judicial or executive branch or an administrative agency of the federal government), in any matter arising under federal law, from compelling a covered person to testify or produce any document unless a court makes specified determinations by a preponderance of the evidence, including determinations: (1) relating to exhaustion of alternative sources, (2) that the testimony or document sought is critical; (3) that disclosure of the information source’s identity is necessary; and (4) that the public interest in compelling disclosure of the information or document involved outweighs the public interest in gathering or disseminating news or information. Allows a court, in making the last of those determinations, to consider the extent of any harm to national security.
Defines “covered person” as a person who regularly gathers, photographs, records, writes, edits, reports, or publishes information concerning matters of public interest for dissemination to the public for a substantial portion of the person’s livelihood or substantial financial gain, including a supervisor, employer, parent, subsidiary, or affiliate of such a person. Excludes from that definition foreign powers and their agents and certain terrorist organizations and individuals.

WND has been doing this sort of thing for years. It is an unethical kind of journalism that fits more with, "My mother was an alien," than real, hard, truthful, factual news. You would not accept this shabbiness from HuffPo. Why accept it from WND?

127 posted on 05/25/2009 11:23:28 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Will global warming make hell hotter? Or is hell freezing over? That is the ???)
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A bill approved by the House of Representatives and referred to the Senate would prohibit federal employees of executive branch from being compelled to release any document unless a court makes a specified determination by a preponderance of evidence -- legislation at least one group suspects is designed to protect Barack Obama's elusive birth certificate from release. The legislation, HR 985, resides in the Senate Judiciary Committee. Sovereignty Alliance has issued a "red alert" about the bill it calls "stealth legislation ... to protect Obama from providing his birth certificate."
How about divorce decrees? Or tax returns? Or discharge papers from the Vietnam era?
129 posted on 05/25/2009 11:38:39 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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Here’s What We The People Can and SHOULD be Doing About This
131 posted on 05/25/2009 12:00:08 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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I would dearly love to see Obama’s birth certificate too, but....

I just read through the bill that you mentioned, H.R.985, found at:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c111:4:./temp/~c111Qx6duK::

It looks like this bill is designed to cover journalists from having to divulge their sources. Where in the bill did you find it is protecting Obama from having to show his birth certificate?


134 posted on 05/25/2009 12:11:32 PM PDT by Sunshine54 (Sunshine54)
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I got an email alert regarding this story from WND and now the story is gone from their website and the link is dead. Strange. Then I googled HR985 and it shows this bill is dead and was introduced in 2007. I wonder why only now is it being reported.

In any case, BO is an illegal impostor and needs to be exposed!


142 posted on 05/25/2009 1:10:30 PM PDT by axslinger
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Proof enough for me. Phony President.


157 posted on 05/25/2009 5:31:48 PM PDT by infidel29 (BARACkarl OBAmarx)
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To: Joiseydude

The second amendment must be in place to keep all the other amendments working.

A man that stands for nothing, will fall for anything.

No one is completely useless..They can always be used as a bad example.

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury” Alexander Tyler 1787

When did individualism and self reliance come to depend on the government?

We can never solve our significant problems from the same level of thinking we were at when we created the problems. Albert Einstein

Corruptisima republica plurimae leges. [The more corrupt a republic, the more laws.] Tacitus, Annals III 27

Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.

“Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others.”
Ayn Rand

Stultus est sicut stultus facit Carpe Diem


158 posted on 05/25/2009 5:32:50 PM PDT by not1b4me
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ya gotta be kiddin me...

159 posted on 05/25/2009 5:54:35 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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The Bill was changed to **HR 1507** and is currently in the Senate Judiciary Committee.


163 posted on 05/25/2009 6:25:28 PM PDT by NaturalBornConservative (http://www.naturalbornconservative.blogspot.com)
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This a a major hit to the first amendment. What will the MSM agencies going to do when they want to find something on a Republican or a conservative?? Nothing?? Very doubtful. This act only applies to DemocRATS and liberals.
164 posted on 05/25/2009 6:59:05 PM PDT by antiunion person (When will the Obama administration throw Nazi Pelosi under the bus.)
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Anyone know what happened to the link/story?

It’s busted.

Kinda smells fishy.

tahDeetz


169 posted on 05/26/2009 5:01:00 AM PDT by ebiskit (South Park Republican ( I see Red People ))
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Who among us didn’t see this one coming for miles?


172 posted on 05/26/2009 10:37:51 AM PDT by Califreak (Stammer Lee, TOTUS and Beltway Bob have turned 1600 into a circus)
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obumpa


198 posted on 05/30/2009 8:05:06 PM PDT by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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