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To: Centurion2000
that would establish a legal basis for the United States to incarcerate terrorism suspects who are deemed a threat to national security but cannot be tried,

I wonder if that would include us Constitution loving, religious second amendment types

53 posted on 05/21/2009 8:28:19 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (zer0 is doing to capitalism what Kennedy did to health care)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; markomalley; Centurion2000
If Bush had proposed the same thing, would we be calling him a Nazi? For some of the terrorists at Gitmo, this may be necessary.

To this very moment I remain peeved that GWB did not DEMAND a Congressional Declaration of War against all jihadi groups listed annually on the (statutorily enforced) Designated Terrorist List from the State Dept.

So many ambiguous and intractable problems have resulted from this failure and now we have yet another one that will potentially allow a Socialist president to invoke "preemptive incarcerations" without warrant or charges. bear in mind that this is possible because GWB failed to completely pull terrorism out of the criminal justice framework and into the realm of military conflict. He had the chance to do so and did not.

This is not at all to indict Gitmo or the capture, incarceration, or treatment of anyone held there. Those guys were and remain Illegal Combatants (aka Unlawful Combatants) in a semi-declared war. They are not criminals, but rather the equivalent of spies and other un-uniformed combatants.

But the unfinished business of 9/11 simply will not quit, IMO due entirely to the ambiguous ground upon which the conflict has remained mired.

109 posted on 05/21/2009 9:03:57 AM PDT by angkor
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