Posted on 05/21/2009 7:11:47 AM PDT by kristinn
Obama goes first in a few minutes. He's speaking at the rotunda of the National Archives (you think we could get Nicholas Cage on that birth certificate thingey?) on his Gitmo policy and other man-caused calamities.
Vice President Cheney gets the rebuttal time. He's speaking at the American Enterprise Institute around 10:45 a.m. EDT.
B.It looks like you had more important things to do - too
A. My dad was career Army. Joined in 1953 to get off the farm and found out he liked it.
B. I moved 12 times growing up. I did not want to do that as an adult.
Military deferment is ok, sending troops into battle is also ok.
It is just that I have a serious problem with the combination of someone who had 5 miltary deferments that later send troops into battle and then a poster says God gave them a double helping of ba**s.
Your dad’s career path has as much comparison to Cheney’s vis a vis Vietnam exposure as mine has.
It’s a very weak argument to bring up deferments of someone who is ten years at least younger than your Dad.
God bless your son, and God speed to him.
GIV'EM HELL, DICK!!!!
Wasn’t that preventive detention plan the same one the Saudis used re: detainees sent? Only for four to end up with a jihad vid and one ending up the head of Al Q in Yemen.
ping
He is defective.
Excellent !
Does he not know how to please all off the Left marxists ALL of the time, is he stupid? Does he speak so damned partisan and blames Bush and says I inheritated this mess blah blah blah to his liberal haters tp appease? Who's side is he on? Not this countries.
Gibbs Dances For 3 Minutes Around Obama’s Intent To Release CIA Memos
http://townhall.com/blog/g/17335a99-6016-4384-9404-47e412b7ace7
How about Whine instead of Swine?
Another Take on the Obama/Cheney Speeches [Pete Hegseth]
I watched the “dueling speeches” this morning, and finally had a chance to jot down some hasty thoughts.
First, while President Obama proclaimed that he had no interest in re-litigating the problems of the past eight years, that is almost entirely what he did. In fact, as usual, it was difficult to differentiate this presidential address from a candidate Obama stump speech. Nearly every statement he made regarding terrorism, Iraq, Afghanistan, Gitmo, interrogations, etc. was (and is) consumed by a desire to stand on the rooftop and shout “I’m not George W. Bush!” Obama seems obsessed with refuting the Bush administration and I think this fact prohibits him from making sound decisions regarding the threats we face.
Second, Obama went to great pains to emphasize that Gitmo has created more terrorists than it has detained, has weakened American security, and the interrogation methods use there, and elsewhere, undermined our fight. This entire argument is premised on the belief that indefinite detention for unlawful combatants who ignore the rules of war — and alleged systematic mistreatment of said militants — provides overwhelming propaganda to our enemies and undermines our values (not to mention distressing the latte crowd across the pond).
Laying aside the debate over what is and what isn’t “torture,” it’s hard to argue with 8+ years of safety since 9/11. Yet, somehow, the interrogations we used to get valuable intelligence have “undermined” our safety. President Obama should tell that to the special operators I served with overseas — and who are still serving — who killed and captured truckloads of so-called jihadists on the battlefield with the intelligence from American interrogations. Or tell that to the American’s who were saved through intelligence we gathered that prevented attacks on our homeland.
Finally, my ears perked up when I heard the president tell Congress, “I’m not the only one who swore an oath to defend the Constitution” — implying that Congress should see him as the gold standard in defending our constitutional values. It’s true that all three branches of government have a responsibility to defend the Constitution, but there are millions more Americans — with more important jobs than the Beltway baby-kissers — who swore to defend the Constitution as well. American warriors on the battlefield put partisan allegiance aside and excute their given mission with professionalism and courage.
President Obama should think a bit more about how the actions he takes will have an affect on these “oath-takers.” When it came to the release of photos showing mistreatment, Obama made the right choice and kept them sealed (for now) in order to prevent more violence against our troops. He needs to take the same into account as he decides whether to ship dangerous terrorists out of Gitmo and provide them ever-more legal protections. Actions which could, theoretically, set dangerous terrorists free to fight another day.
The president’s juggling-act stands in stark contrast to former Vice President Cheney’s grown-up speech at AEI. After hearing President Obama literally call the Bush approach “a misguided experiment” and “a mess,” Cheney calmly dispelled the caricature of the big bad Bush sdministration.
His defense of doing what it takes — within the law and under the Constitution — struck me as the kind of gutsy, straightforward, and yet sophisticated approach our country needs from the White House. Cheney underscored the continued threat we face, and the need to support our war-fighters — and intelligence operatives — as they do the dirty work of defending the Constitution. He also emphasized that a) they must have all the tools they need (within the law); b) we can’t afford to start releasing terrorists, thereby putting our troops in more danger; and c) who cares what Europe thinks, American security is at stake here.
My guess is that most American’s will be drawn to President Obama’s souring rhetoric on the topic; but I think that if just the text of the speech was read to your average American without telling them who said it, most would side with the voice of leader, not a politician seeking to placate competing constituencies.
05/21 04:30 PMShare
[How about Whine instead of Swine?]
That’s an idea Dave! Lol, I’ve been ‘redoing’ some old gifs with new heads and text. Some never seem to go out of style.
I think he's trying not to laugh out loud about the fact that BO is being condescending and arrogant!
Thank for posting the link to the transcripts. Missed it today and am trying to read all the posts right now. Sounds like Bambi was a jerk!
a) not paying a lick of attention b) mesmerized in his bullshit teleprompts and youtube addresses. He controls the masses better than Hitler.
President Bush looks like he just read Dick Cheney mind in this picture and is trying not to react.
Yup, O’s narcissism was his downfall today. Ha-ha
All this BS from Obama about how Bush overrode the Constitution and here he is taking over the auto companies and banks! This is his style, when cornered blame the other guy.
Let’s see how this works a year down the rode. I know he will try it and it is a fact 69,456,897 people were stupid enough to vote for him, but will some of them wise up?
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