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To: GodGunsGuts

70 posts later and noone has even bothered addressing hte article- all the anticreationsits can do is brag about hteir credentials and criticise those that don’t drink the coolaid of Darwin. Let’s just take a look at hte dating methods employed to come up with the ‘Facts’ that ‘support’ an old earth age- Seems they are rife with problems and heavy on assumptions- not somethign that ‘facts’ are supposed to be made from- but apaprently some don’t care that the methods used are dubious and ridden with problems- if a ;scientist’ says it, it must hterefore be true apparently, and htose that quesiton hte mthods must therefore be ‘antiscience’ apparently:

Superposition
Not a valid dating method- too manyvariables must be taken into account- too many suppositions
http://www.fbinstitute.com/powell/evolutionexposed.htm

Stratigraphy
http://geoinfo.nmt.edu/publications/bulletins/135/home.html

Dendrochronology
Up to 10000 years tops

Radiometric Dating Methods
problems with radiometic http://www.specialtyinterests.net/carbon14.html

Obsidian Hydration Dating
Many obsidians are crowded with microlites and crystallines (gobulites and trichites), and these form fission-track-like etch pits following etching with hydrofluoric acid. The etch pits of the microlites and crystallines are difficult to separate from real fission tracks formed from the spontaneous decay of 238U, and accordingly, calculated ages based on counts including the microlite and crystalline etch pits are not reliable.”
http://trueorigin.org/dating.asp
http://www.scientifictheology.com/STH/Pent3.html

Paleomagnetic/Archaeomagnetic
Very little info on this method
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dp5/tecto.htm

Luminescence Dating Methods
http://karst.planetresources.net/Kimberley_Culture.htm

Amino Acid Racemization
http://www.creation-science-prophecy.com/amino/

Fission-track Dating
http://www.ao.jpn.org/kuroshio/86criticism.html

Ice Cores
Varves
At best- the two methods above are only accurate to about 11,000 years due to numerous conditions and environmental uncertainties

Pollens
Corals
Highly unreliable- you’d need constant temps to maintaIN reliable growth pattersn http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v14/i1/coral_reef.asp

Cation Ratio
Fluorine Dating
http://www.present-truth.org/Creation/creation-not-evolution-13.htm

Patination
Known times only throuhg analysis of the patina
Oxidizable Carbon Ratio

Electron Spin Resonance
Cosmic-ray Exposure Dating
Closely related to the buggiest dating methods of Carbon dating

why it’s wrong:
http://www.cs.unc.edu/~plaisted/ce/dating.html#Carbon
http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3059

RaDio helio dating disproves:
http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/369
http://www.cs.unc.edu/~plaisted/ce/
http://www.rae.org/


74 posted on 05/18/2009 9:14:57 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop

As you can imagine, I get that a lot!

Thanks for the links...I have never read many of them...so I best roll up my sleaves and get started.


76 posted on 05/18/2009 9:38:53 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: CottShop
Here's the rebuttals to your articles ...

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/hovind/howgood.html

I can cut and paste too ...

78 posted on 05/18/2009 9:44:16 AM PDT by clamper1797 (FUBO ... protege of the unholy union of Karl Marx and affirmative action)
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To: CottShop

Why include C-14, but leave out Uranium which is what the current Earth-age estimates are based on?


90 posted on 05/18/2009 10:34:44 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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