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To: TheOldLady; Maelstorm; timm22

>>>Are you willing to go to war with Russia over this? If not, there is nothing you can do about it. And don’t mention diplomatic sanctions; they’ll just laugh at you.

Total strawman. It’s not a question of going to “war” with Russia. It’s about so called “true conservatives” cheering on Russian police thugs who are beating people for daring to talk to reporters and similar “immoral” conduct. “Conservative values” my aunt fanny.

Protesting without a permit can get you arrested in many lands. Getting beaten for peaceful protest is however another matter. The people applauding this are a LOT worse then the militant gays who harassed Miss California. At least nobody beat her up.

This story isn’t just about Russia. I expect Russians to be thugs. However I expect better from this site. But more and more I find myself let down.


59 posted on 05/16/2009 8:21:24 PM PDT by tlb
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To: tlb

You may not have heard all the conversation that ended with “go to war with Russia.” The context was that someone said that Russia, or any other country, should not treat peaceful protesters that way, and my point was that we can’t tell Russia, nor any other country, what to do. Not a straw man at all, just a “pick the hill you die on” comment.

Some people are just fed up. You can only be outraged for so long before you just want all the attacks on yourself and your culture to end. Everyone behaves badly sometimes, and it’s usually when they’re fed up — or alcohol is involved. And cheering for something bad that you would never do yourself can be an outlet for the pressure we’re all under right now.

You don’t think Miss CA was beaten up? It depends on what’s worse, a bruise and a black eye or losing something you have worked your entire life to attain. Personally, I would prefer the bruises if my life’s work would be a complete success.

So lighten up. That’s a high horse you’re on, and maybe the letdown isn’t so bad for you.


61 posted on 05/16/2009 9:07:28 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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