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The Democrats are not going to let Specter run as a Dem without getting something out of him. To get cover for flipping his vote on card check, he wants some cosmetic changes.

If arbitrators can impose contracts, unions will be rejecting more companies' "last and best offers". I suspect the unions want the option of mail-in ballots because they are easier to tamper with. How do you know who really mailed in the ballot?

1 posted on 05/15/2009 8:16:11 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

S.P.E.C.T.E.R. sucks


2 posted on 05/15/2009 8:20:13 PM PDT by WatchYourself
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I knew this was coming. Specter was basically told you don’t go along with us on card check you lose senority forever.
He has to go. He has no integrity whatosever.


4 posted on 05/15/2009 8:24:22 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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To: reaganaut1
Absolutely not. 100% secret ballot, and no mandatory govt. arbitration. Anything else is a non-starter.

Without a secret ballot, workers will be (are guaran-f'n-tee'd to be) intimidated into joining unions. This will effectively, eventually, make every business a union shop. This will give the unions even more power over businesses, and feed their coffers so they can buy even more votes and influence in govt.

Mandatory govt. arbitration of union disputes means that all a union has to do is hold out on an unreasonable position long enough, and a govt. appointed flunky will eventually come in and impose a settlement on the business. This effectively puts the govt. in control of every business. Socialism, pure and simple.

You think obama has us headed for socialism at a gallop? This will put us on the black diamond slope with a fresh wax job...

5 posted on 05/15/2009 8:26:31 PM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar (I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom. You can keep the "change.")
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To: reaganaut1

Specter is not a conservative, liberal, libertarian, progressive. No core beliefs. He is a Specterite. He only cares about what will keep him in power.

I frankly have more respect for progressive lib dems than I do for the likes of him. At least I know what I’m getting. “Moderates” like him in both parties are like your bipolar uncle who comes over every year for Thanksgiving dinner and is off his meds....you have no idea what you are gonna get.

They are for big gubmint, limited gubmint, whatever. Depends on what mood they are in.


7 posted on 05/15/2009 9:24:58 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: reaganaut1

And Benedict Arlen begins the flip-flop on this issue (one of many.)


8 posted on 05/15/2009 9:53:07 PM PDT by TBP
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To: reaganaut1
Sen. Specter is working closely with Sen. Tom Harkin (D., Iowa), the bill's lead sponsor in the Senate, and Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D., Calif.), the staffer said.

Tom Harkin

one of the most loathsome wastes of sin on the planet

Harkin makes the swimmer seem human

Didn't he also falsify his 'war record'???

.

12 posted on 05/15/2009 10:22:24 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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Those on the left that I have talked to see the key problem is that a secret ballot makes it harder to form unions. The reason given is that between the time that the ballot is announced and the time it is held the corporation has time to attempt to influence and intimidate the labor force. The argument regarding intimidation of card holders by fellow employees and union officials is discounted as theoretical and unlikely.


13 posted on 05/15/2009 10:27:54 PM PDT by RonF
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What a putz - and he doesn’t realize that the Dems are gonna 86 him in the Pa. primary ...


14 posted on 05/16/2009 12:31:55 AM PDT by Lmo56
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... legislation that makes it easier to organize workers.

It's already easy to unionize workers who want to give up a large chunk of their pay for pathetic union representation that looks after the union management's interests instead of the workers' interests. What's hard is organizing workers who don't want to be organized - but that's only because of individual freedom so Obama should fix that problem in no time.

15 posted on 05/16/2009 4:28:47 AM PDT by TurtleUp (So this is how liberty dies - to thunderous applause!)
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They are going to call it “The Magic Ballet”.


16 posted on 05/16/2009 4:43:59 AM PDT by bmwcyle (American voters can fix this world if they would just wake up.)
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To: reaganaut1; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Larry Lucido; ...
This just in... Kent Brockman reporting--

Arlen Specter today shocked all Washington... Photobucket by announcing his switch to the Whig Party--

And here is the Senator... Photobucket at the Whig Party Headquarters--

Film... at 11!

17 posted on 05/16/2009 5:01:27 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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One question:

What is wrong with current rules regarding union organizing that changes need to be made?

Let them come out and admit that they want to make it easier for unions to organize. It will make it easier to beat them in 2010.


18 posted on 05/16/2009 6:12:54 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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Sen. Arlen Specter is floating two compromise proposals ...
Hey Arlen, float "this". In case you haven't looked you are now a NOBODY. You have lees seniority than the lowest Dem that just got elected. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY now cares what you think.

(how's your 30 pieces of silver? Isn't it hard dragging them around with you all the time?)

19 posted on 05/16/2009 6:50:40 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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"We continue to stand in support of the right of workers to have a secret ballot and the right to vote on contracts without interference from government bureaucrats," said Katie Packer

Clearly Ms Packer knows the difference between a 'workforce' and 'labor'! Just as clearly, Sen. Sphincter does not. Sphincter's payoff from the Socialist Workers of theWorld musta been pretty good to compromise his constituents so blatantly!...or did most of them know he was a lib from day one!...as a good rust belt state, PA has 'benefited' mightily from unions shutting down companies, killing companies, killing business, and generally creating a welfare state for decades! Chicaga just got more 'attention' doing it!

21 posted on 05/16/2009 9:48:22 AM PDT by CRBDeuce (here, while the internet is still free of the Fairness Doctrine)
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Business groups were quick to shoot down his proposals, in a sign of how difficult it will be to reach agreement on legislation that makes it easier to organize workers. "We continue to stand in support of the right of workers to have a secret ballot and the right to vote on contracts without interference from government bureaucrats," said Katie Packer, executive director of the Workforce Fairness Institute, a business-backed nonprofit that opposes the Employee Free Choice Act, also known as "card check."

24 posted on 05/16/2009 7:48:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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