[tpanther]

Taking the position of sterilizing God from science for science’s sake is the liberal politically correct/atheist position. It’s really not that hard to grasp, particularly on a site called Free Republic. Perhaps a review for you from Jim Robinson is in order.

Again.

The Founding Fathers would scold you for your views. You’ve twisted it to incorporate liberalism, Christianity should be silenced in order for muslims and hindus and everybody else to feel good about themselves.

To say nothing of how antithetical this is to the Christian calling. We’re called to share the Truth, the Gospel. It stands to reason that an omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent Christian God has a place in His creation, which of course includes science class.

The issue isn’t proselytizing, or theology in science class, rather the extraoridnary lengths the godless will go to to stamp out any mention of His name, even when an innocent child asks an innocent question about her teeth.

It’s not weak to stand up for Christ at every possible angle. PARTICULARLY when a child is asking a simple question, again for you people to prattle on endlessly about science and religion to be so compatable, you go to extraordinary lengths to defeat your own argument.

The little girl’s question has absolutely nothing to do with hinduism or any other strawman you bring up.

Again, it’s not that difficult a concept to grasp allmendream.

Either evolution is God’s intelligent design and children should be privvy to this or not. The lengths you go to deny this make it crystal clear whom has the weak faith here.

A Christian person understands science taught with a Godly perspective is what leads to a moral undertaking. Something sorely lacking in our society as it is and something that escapes evolution apologists that require the fraud of peer review of like-minded God deniers to prop up their weak faith in Godless science.

One who goes to extraordinary lengths to hide God from children for the sake of godless science and calls himself a Christian, then has the audacity to call creationsists liars when their liberal position gets exposed, has no place on FR, IMHO.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so much for sharing your insights, dear brother in Christ!

It is spiritually perilous to deny Christ.

Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. – Matthew 10:32-33

And because it so obvious by looking at the creation that the Creator IS, God will hold every man accountable for noticing there was a beginning and a Creator of it:

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified [him] not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.– Romans 1:20-32

Of course, examining the creature – the creation – is the life work of scientists.

And they try to carve away their search space by the principle of “methodological naturalism” - they only look at that which is knowable, measurable, observable, and predictable.

Officially this is to keep science out of theology but alas some do theology under the color of science anyway, e.g. Dawkins, and vice versa, science under the color of theology.

More to the point, man is small minded and easily distracted. Look at how we rubber-neck at traffic pileups or celebrities and how easily the press and politicians influence the masses (“watch the birdie.”)

Likewise here, the Christian who is a scientist must be exceedingly alert because the nature of his work requires him to focus on the creature. He must be ever aware of the warning in the above Scripture:

Because that, when they knew God, they glorified [him] not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever.

Nothing is hidden from God. He knows all the secrets of a man’s heart. And if that Christian man who is a scientist loses his sense of priorities and thus worships (or hallows) and serves the creature more than the Creator, he is in trouble.

Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near [me] with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men: Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, [even] a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise [men] shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent [men] shall be hid.

Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD, and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who seeth us? and who knoweth us?

Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding? – Isaiah 29:13-16

We are blessed with several Christians here on the forum who are also scientists. They are witnesses to God in the belly of the beast of no-theism by reason of “methodological naturalism.”

Their assignment, their challenge, their personal risk is greater than I can imagine. And yet I know that God would not put them there if they were not up to the task.

I join in prayer for each and every one of them!

To God be the glory!