Posted on 05/12/2009 11:09:18 AM PDT by presidio9
***Put the bottle down, and back away from the keyboard. That can be the only excuse for your drivel. ***
Are you accusing me of being an alcoholic and typing drivel?
***mark, the guy who likes to spit on the screen.***
I don’t spit on the screen and I have always capitalized your name in posts.
***I don’t care to keep posting to your repeated proven lies.***
I do not lie and would appreciate you proving a single instance or else backing down.
***Please stop posting to me with your untrue claims and lies. ***
I do not lie and would appreciate you proving a single instance or else backing down.
***I haven’t rattled your chains on purpose! You’re just howling at the moon, when you post that stuff to me!***
I do not lie and would appreciate you proving a single instance or else backing down.
***Christ is not honored by brothers flinging charges and counter-charges.***
We have the Gospel of Christ; we do not have the gospel of Luther’s every milkmaid.
***I just get tired of your lies and innuendos and claims of exclusivity. ***
I do not lie and would appreciate you proving a single instance or else backing down.
***I am not a (Roman) Catholic. I belong to Christ’s catholic church. ***
You give little evidence.
***Let’s agree to disagree, and try to be less disagreeable.***
I will not compromise on the Gospel of Christ.
***I’ll trust the Holy Spirit to take over for me!***
Most of the folks that call on the Holy Spirit as the director of their actions tend to exhibit extremely non Christian ones.
***Will you? Can you? ***
I witness and present apology for Jesus the Christ. Beyond that, what would you have me do?
***In this case, your fruits are spastic, manic character assassination...or at least an attempt at such.***
You wouldn’t recommend a spot on Letterman, would you?
He's not bound by Exodus 20:16, so what is this trifling about proof that you keep demanding?
I can quote you about not judging, but that would just expose one more of your lies!
You are a liar and God's Word is true. You are judging for Jesus, now?
May God help you as He helps me. I never met Luther!
***Please stop spitting on my screen!***
***He’s not bound by Exodus 20:16, so what is this trifling about proof that you keep demanding?***
Well, true. Doesn’t Deuteronomy say something about about not installing skanky tramp stamps on one’s body as well? Perhaps our young ones have been exempted by the cult readings of the Bible, too. Well, if you don’t have to keep from bearing false witness, then surely a tattooed sleeve would be okay.
***Mark, every time you tell me I am not a Christian, you are telling a lie.***
I cannot tell if one is a Christian. I can only tell if he gives little or no evidence. You have given little evidence, if any. I do not lie.
***I can quote you about not judging, but that would just expose one more of your lies! ***
Please, go ahead. Is it as accurate as the above accusation?
***You are a liar and God’s Word is true. You are judging for Jesus, now? ***
Whooooo. So now you are claiming that if one accuses you of something, then that one is accusing Jesus or Judging for Jesus? Are you of the Elect or one of God’s Chosen, to remain unmolested so that you can go about God’s business?
Lord save us all from the self anointed.
***May God help you as He helps me.***
I pray that God in His Mercy helps us all. I further pray that I do not need the same sort of help. But if I do, then so be it.
***I never met Luther! ***
Look around you at every church that is not in communion with the Catholic Church and you’ve met him.
******Please stop spitting on my screen!******
This is a quote, ostensibly from me, since this post references my last quote. I never said this; I have never said anything remotely like this. Why would you post this and attribute it to me?
40Some Pharisees who were with him heard him say this and asked, "What? Are we blind too?"
41Jesus said, "If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains.
John 10: 1"I tell you the truth, the man who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber. 2The man who enters by the gate is the shepherd of his sheep. 3The watchman opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. 5But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger's voice." 6Jesus used this figure of speech, but they did not understand what he was telling them.
7Therefore Jesus said again, "I tell you the truth, I am the gate for the sheep. 8All who ever came before me were thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not listen to them. 9I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved.[a] He will come in and go out, and find pasture. 10The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.
11"I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. 12The hired hand is not the shepherd who owns the sheep. So when he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away. Then the wolf attacks the flock and scatters it. 13The man runs away because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep.
14"I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me— 15just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.
Are you going to answer my posts (with Scripture) or are you simply going to get out your Reformed random verse generator and post, well, random verses?
I see the underlined hired hand verse. Consider this, though, that Peter and Paul and all the other Apostles were not hired hands. They were willing volunteers. And they stuck it out.
The hired hand tag might be better put on all those not in communion with the Church who run television ministries and megachurches and preside over flocks who do not have the message of Christianity. Would you consider such as Osteen or Hagee or Roberts or Schuller to be Christian? Or hired hands?
But please don’t get distracted by this and do some work on the first questions.
25"All this I have spoken while still with you. 26But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. 27Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.
Romans 1: 1Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle and set apart for the gospel of God— 2the gospel he promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures 3regarding his Son, who as to his human nature was a descendant of David, 4and who through the Spirit[a] of holiness was declared with power to be the Son of God[b] by his resurrection from the dead: Jesus Christ our Lord. 5Through him and for his name's sake, we received grace and apostleship to call people from among all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith. 6And you also are among those who are called to belong to Jesus Christ. ...
Romans 2: ... 1You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. 2Now we know that God's judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. 3So when you, a mere man, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God's judgment? 4Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, tolerance and patience, not realizing that God's kindness leads you toward repentance?...
...17Now you, if you call yourself a Jew; if you rely on the law and brag about your relationship to God; 18if you know his will and approve of what is superior because you are instructed by the law; 19if you are convinced that you are a guide for the blind, a light for those who are in the dark, 20an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of infants, because you have in the law the embodiment of knowledge and truth— 21you, then, who teach others, do you not teach yourself? You who preach against stealing, do you steal? 22You who say that people should not commit adultery, do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples? 23You who brag about the law, do you dishonor God by breaking the law? 24As it is written: "God's name is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you."
25Circumcision has value if you observe the law, but if you break the law, you have become as though you had not been circumcised. 26If those who are not circumcised keep the law's requirements, will they not be regarded as though they were circumcised? 27The one who is not circumcised physically and yet obeys the law will condemn you who, even though you have the[c] written code and circumcision, are a lawbreaker.
28A man is not a Jew if he is only one outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. 29No, a man is a Jew if he is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man's praise is not from men, but from God.
***26But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. ***
So you are going to ignore everything that I have either stated or questioned. So be it.
Please note that teaching does not guarantee learning. The Holy Spirit will teach and lead all of mankind; there are so many out there in TVland and Evangelicalland etc etc who claim the Holy Spirit and yet act completely against the Gospels.
The flint heart is enough to repel the Grace of God. Otherwise, the Sermons and all the admonitions to behave according to the Spirit and to Jesus would be irrelevant. Even those who are full of the Spirit can fall away: Origen, Tertullian, even Augustine (for a time). As well as a sinner such as myself who departed for a time.
John 7: ... 16Jesus answered, "My teaching is not my own. It comes from him who sent me. 17If anyone chooses to do God's will, he will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own. 18He who speaks on his own does so to gain honor for himself, but he who works for the honor of the one who sent him is a man of truth; there is nothing false about him. 19Has not Moses given you the law? Yet not one of you keeps the law. Why are you trying to kill me?"
20"You are demon-possessed," the crowd answered. "Who is trying to kill you?"
21Jesus said to them, "I did one miracle, and you are all astonished. 22Yet, because Moses gave you circumcision (though actually it did not come from Moses, but from the patriarchs), you circumcise a child on the Sabbath. 23Now if a child can be circumcised on the Sabbath so that the law of Moses may not be broken, why are you angry with me for healing the whole man on the Sabbath? 24Stop judging by mere appearances, and make a right judgment."
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Romans 3: 9Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin.
21But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.
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