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THE POPE STANDS UP (and walks out on Palestinian leader Sheikh Taysir al-Tamimi)
NY Post ^ | May 12, 2009

Posted on 05/12/2009 11:09:18 AM PDT by presidio9

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To: WVKayaker

My name is not Pete, boy.


2,941 posted on 06/04/2009 9:11:25 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: WVKayaker
Oh, and again, Let me help you:
18 For amen I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot, or one tittle shall not pass of the law, till all be fulfilled.

2,942 posted on 06/04/2009 9:12:26 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski
Let me help you...

18 For amen I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot, or one tittle shall not pass of the law, till all be fulfilled. -posded by Pete to prove ???

Luke 18:31 : 31Jesus took the Twelve aside and told them, "We are going up to Jerusalem, and everything that is written by the prophets about the Son of Man will be fulfilled.

2,943 posted on 06/04/2009 9:12:57 PM PDT by WVKayaker ( God said, 'Cancel Program GENESIS.' The universe ceased to exist.- Arth. C. Clarke's shortest story)
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To: WVKayaker

I posted Jesus saying it will not be fulfilled until the end of the earth, and you posted Jesus saying it will be fulfilled in the future.

The end of the earth remains in the future.

The Ten Commandments still apply.


2,944 posted on 06/04/2009 9:14:21 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: WVKayaker

Just which English translation are you posting there, boy?


2,945 posted on 06/04/2009 9:15:10 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: WVKayaker
"We are going up to Jerusalem, and everything that is written by the prophets about the Son of Man will be fulfilled."

The Ten Commandments are not prophecies about the Son of Man, boy.

2,946 posted on 06/04/2009 9:16:41 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: MarkBsnr
So here's a cultist who sees:
"We are going up to Jerusalem, and everything that is written by the prophets about the Son of Man will be fulfilled."
...but reads it as...
"We are going up to Jerusalem, and everything that is written by the prophets about the Son of Man will be fulfilled."
They view Scripture like ice cream: easily melted.
2,947 posted on 06/04/2009 9:19:35 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: WVKayaker

***But what do you, the individual proscribed by Scripture to interpret it, how do YOU interpret it?

LOL, you’re spit is hitting our screens. I don’t need to interpret anything. ***

Well, on the face of it, you are interpreting everything that you read (mostly non Gospel) as only non Christians do.

***Why do you refuse to hear the Word of God, without someone interpreting for you. God gives us the Holy Spirit for that. ***

You the individual are proscribed from personal interpretation. 2 Pet 1:
20
12 Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation,
21
for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God.

And that is backed up by Acts 26:
26
7 Then the angel of the Lord spoke to Philip, “Get up and head south on the road that goes down from Jerusalem to Gaza, the desert route.”
27
So he got up and set out. Now there was an Ethiopian eunuch, a court official of the Candace, 8 that is, the queen of the Ethiopians, in charge of her entire treasury, who had come to Jerusalem to worship,
28
and was returning home. Seated in his chariot, he was reading the prophet Isaiah.
29
The Spirit said to Philip, “Go and join up with that chariot.”
30
9 Philip ran up and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet and said, “Do you understand what you are reading?”
31
He replied, “How can I, unless someone instructs me?” So he invited Philip to get in and sit with him.

You are reading your own thoughts, whims and desires into Scripture. You are proscribed. Leave that to the Church of Scripture, do not take what Scripture says is not for you onto yourself.


2,948 posted on 06/04/2009 9:20:37 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: WVKayaker
Oh, and again, Let me help you:
18 For amen I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot, or one tittle shall not pass of the law, till all be fulfilled.

2,949 posted on 06/04/2009 9:20:45 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: WVKayaker

***But what do you, the individual proscribed by Scripture to interpret it, how do YOU interpret it?

LOL, you’re spit is hitting our screens. I don’t need to interpret anything. ***

Well, on the face of it, you are interpreting everything that you read (mostly non Gospel) as only non Christians do.

***Why do you refuse to hear the Word of God, without someone interpreting for you. God gives us the Holy Spirit for that. ***

You the individual are proscribed from personal interpretation. 2 Pet 1:
20
12 Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation,
21
for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God.

And that is backed up by Acts 26:
26
7 Then the angel of the Lord spoke to Philip, “Get up and head south on the road that goes down from Jerusalem to Gaza, the desert route.”
27
So he got up and set out. Now there was an Ethiopian eunuch, a court official of the Candace, 8 that is, the queen of the Ethiopians, in charge of her entire treasury, who had come to Jerusalem to worship,
28
and was returning home. Seated in his chariot, he was reading the prophet Isaiah.
29
The Spirit said to Philip, “Go and join up with that chariot.”
30
9 Philip ran up and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet and said, “Do you understand what you are reading?”
31
He replied, “How can I, unless someone instructs me?” So he invited Philip to get in and sit with him.

You are reading your own thoughts, whims and desires into Scripture. You are proscribed. Leave that to the Church of Scripture; do not take what Scripture says is not for you onto yourself.


2,950 posted on 06/04/2009 9:21:21 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
The phrase that still strikes a chill through me:

...the "so-called" Ten Commandments...

2,951 posted on 06/04/2009 9:23:26 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski
This "boy" has consistently posted the New International Version. You have consistently posted the Petronski Bullcrap version. Mine is based on the original texts, in Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic, and translated by a group of linguistic Scholars , with the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Copyright is held by Zondervan Publishing Company*. I am sure you can make some nasty remark about them.

*The translation of each book was assigned to a team of scholars, and the work was thoroughly reviewed and revised at various stages by three separate committees.The Committee submitted the developing version to stylistic consultants who made invaluable suggestions. Samples of the translation were tested for clarity and ease ofreading by various groups of people. In short, perhaps no other translation has been made by a more thorough process of review and revision.

The Committee held to certain goals for the NIV: that it be an Accurate, Beautiful, Clear, and Dignified translation suitable for public and private reading, teaching, preaching, memorizing, and liturgical use. The translators were united in their commitment to the authority and infallibility of the Bible as God's Word in written form. They agreed that faithful communication of the meaning of the original writers demands frequent modifications in sentence structure (resulting in a "thought-for-thought" translation) and constant regard for the contextual meanings of words.

Scripture taken from the HOLY BIBLE, NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION®. Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 International Bible Society. Used by permission of Zondervan. All rights reserved.

The "NIV" and "New International Version" trademarks are registered in the United States Patent and Trademark Office by International Bible Society. Use of either trademark requires the permission of International Bible Society.

2,952 posted on 06/04/2009 9:24:45 PM PDT by WVKayaker ( God said, 'Cancel Program GENESIS.' The universe ceased to exist.- Arth. C. Clarke's shortest story)
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To: WVKayaker

***...and may Paul pray for your eternal salvation.
He’s dead, Jim...***

That’s interesting. You have posted several times that Paul speaks to you and he is an old friend. Are you a necromancer speaking to dead men?


2,953 posted on 06/04/2009 9:25:36 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: WVKayaker

***God’s Word is my argument.***

You don’t post God’s Word. You post letters from a bishop to his flock. I have proved this to you.


2,954 posted on 06/04/2009 9:28:21 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: WVKayaker

***You may call me anything, but I posted the Word of God. You may choose to ignore it, or call Paul a liar. ***

Paul is not a liar. He wrote as a bishop to his flock. You are the liar.


2,955 posted on 06/04/2009 9:29:05 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: WVKayaker

***How could the prayers of Paul (dead guy) have any hope in my salvation. My salvation is derived from faith in the shed blood of Jesus, not membership in your deceitful organization. ***

Your posts indicate that you do not believe in Jesus; you believe in a weird alternative version of Christianity in which Jesus doesn’t count and some bizarre interpretation of Paul’s letters to his bishopric constitutes all of Christianity.

Your postings strongly indicate that you are not Christian.


2,956 posted on 06/04/2009 9:31:09 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Petronski

***Deny the Ten Commandments, deny eternal life, but still pretend to be some kind of Christian cult.

It’s like one of those tourist-trap roadside museums, or maybe Ripley’s Believe It or Not.***

Perhaps it’s a shell game in which you guess at the shell which gives eternal life, rather than believe in Christ Jesus.


2,957 posted on 06/04/2009 9:32:02 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Petronski

***So here’s a cultist who sees:
“We are going up to Jerusalem, and everything that is written by the prophets about the Son of Man will be fulfilled.”
...but reads it as...
“We are going up to Jerusalem, and everything that is written by the prophets about the Son of Man will be fulfilled.”
They view Scripture like ice cream: easily melted.***

When you create your own God in your own image and keep Him on the hall stand where you can rub His head for luck when you walk by, what do you expect?


2,958 posted on 06/04/2009 9:36:11 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
Mark, you have posted a lot of accusations, but no indictment. Your posting don't show the error of ANY Scripture quote I have posted. I have not interpreted anything. I have allowed God to speak through His Word. You have a problem with Paul, not me.

You are the one with the challenge. You may belittle me all day long, call me all of your names, and ridicule my words. But, the Word of God stands, without any INTERPRETATION required. Make no mistake, Mark, God will not be mocked, even by a zealous Catholic like you.

God doesn't need your Pope to keep you straight. He doesn't need a priest in a funny hat. He has a Spirit, and has made it clear where He is... and what He expects.

Don't blame me, Mark. Blame Paul as the liar, or blame your church for lying to you.

Matthew 18: 15"If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. 16But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.' 17If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

18"I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.

19"Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven. 20For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them."

21Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, "Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother when he sins against me? Up to seven times?"

22Jesus answered, "I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times.

2,959 posted on 06/04/2009 9:43:16 PM PDT by WVKayaker ( God said, 'Cancel Program GENESIS.' The universe ceased to exist.- Arth. C. Clarke's shortest story)
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To: WVKayaker
...translated by a group of linguistic Scholars...

They should have hired a group of skilled linguistic scholars who wanted an accurate, dignified translation.

What's next, the New TWITTER/texting International Version? The Archie Gang reenacts selections from Scripture? Blue Man Group presents GOSPEL!?

2,960 posted on 06/04/2009 9:44:43 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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