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To: Lurker

Please pardon my intrusion but I would like to comment on 2 points:

“Let’s see what God’s Word says...Thou shall not fornicate
Without fornication there would be no children.”

I would like to offer a word definition clarification.

Fornication-Consensual sex between two individuals not married to one another.

While it’s true that many children are conceived through fornication there are also many children that are conceived through old fashioned conjugal relations between husband and wife as well.

“Your doing an awful lot of judging, aren’t you? Doesn’t that book you say is God’s Holy Word warn you against judging others?”

The Bible does record Jesus saying “Judge not, that you be not judged.” Matthew 7:1. However the Bible also records Jesus saying “Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.” in John 7:24.

This means we aren’t to judge self-righteously or hypocritically. It certainly doesn’t mean we are never to make judgments or show discernment. That would be exceedingly silly. For example, if one decided to criticize the Iranian Muslim government for executing women or homosexual persons, the Iranian Muslim government could turn around to its critics and say “You’re judging us! Judge not lest ye be judged!” If we never made judgments or showed discernment, none of us would be able to read a legal document, drive a car, operate a computer or simply get through the day.

Again, please pardon my intrusion. Please feel free to carry on your discussion.


148 posted on 05/09/2009 8:17:16 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan
The Bible does record Jesus saying “Judge not, that you be not judged.” Matthew 7:1. However the Bible also records Jesus saying “Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.” in John 7:24.

Either way my point is well made. No one here knows my neighbors or what kind of people they are.

I'm not arguing the Christian Biblical morality of their, or the people in this article at all. It obviously immoral from a Christian Biblical perspective.

That's also completely irrelevant to the discussion I was having. While their behavior may be immoral in the eyes of some, or even most people, that doesn't mean Government should do anything about it.

These people are harming no one, except possibly themselves with this God you're all so worked up about. If they're pissing God off I'm sure he'll deal with them in His own way.

But leave Government out of it.

149 posted on 05/09/2009 8:23:43 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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