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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
I don't think it is. I think you're waxing philosophical or theological in a way that obscures a real difference. Life turns water into wine through well understood, manipulable, controllable, repeatable physical processes

You mixing answers and questions. First you asked me what I thought. I answered you and why I thought that way. Accept it or not. That is my answer. You won't badger me into some position you have dreamt up. You asked me and I answered. God is timeless, therefore any reference to restrictions on him vs time are meaningless. Whatever our perception of the "event".

Secondly, I asked you what you considered a miracle and I gave examples of what could be considered miracles. You made a blanket assertion, "Miracles don't work that way". Well, how do you know? Have you witnessed a miracle? And if so why did you consider it a miracle? I asked an atheist what she would consider a miracle. She did not answer. So, I still say your question is meaningless, it may be due to a profound difference in our view of God, but nonetheless my answer remains. But let me give you a hint, God knows our prayers "before" we speak them.

Psa 139:4 For [there is] not a word in my tongue, [but], lo, O LORD, thou knowest it altogether.

Psa 139:5 Thou hast beset me behind and before, and laid thine hand upon me.

Psa 139:6 [Such] knowledge [is] too wonderful for me; it is high, I cannot [attain] unto it.

God does not have to "violate" or "suspend" his physical laws to perform a "miracle". A million continuous rolls of seven by a pair of dice is not impossible(and does not violate any physical law I am familiar with) but it sure isn't likely. And a person doing so would likely be shot around the fiftieth roll.

136 posted on 05/10/2009 11:48:08 AM PDT by AndrewC (Metanoia)
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To: AndrewC
That is my answer. You won't badger me into some position you have dreamt up. You asked me and I answered.

I'm not trying to badger you into anything. I'm trying to avoid drawing conclusions from statements of yours that I may have poorly understood, so I was asking for clarification. I still think the distinction I'm drawing is valid, and I think you're using the "it's all the same to God" position to avoid addressing it. Not that it's notall the same to God; but it's not all the same to us.

140 posted on 05/10/2009 1:34:07 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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