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Why isn’t Detroit a Paradise?
ChicagoBoyz ^ | November 1st, 2008 | Shannon Love

Posted on 05/06/2009 3:38:05 PM PDT by Leisler

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To: B-Chan
The true Golden Age of America was 1945-1965. It was downhill all the way after that.

I grew up in New York City in the 1960's and 70's. In the 60's it was totally safe for me as a kid to ride my bicycle all through Brooklyn, and my neighborhood was a safe working-to-middle class neighborhood. My mom had no problems with sending me as an 11 year old to ride the subway by myself to get to my aunt's house.

I passed through my old neighborhood 20 years later and remarked that I wouldn't want to be on foot and unarmed there. It had completely changed.

21 posted on 05/06/2009 4:44:53 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: PapaBear3625

Ditto for my old neighborhood in Dallas. We kids used to walk all over the place. Now, though, the neighborhood is a war zone. I’ll let you guess what the primary difference is between Then and Now.


22 posted on 05/06/2009 4:48:05 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Clemenza
A very interesting and illustrative example of the UAW and a failed auto company came in the late 50's and early 60's when Studebaker Auto went belly-up. A company that was running for a century (Studebaker Wagons were very popular in going west) prided itself on a 'family relation' with its work force. When the UAW became supreme this attitude was not returned. Studebaker had a reputation of paying higher wages and having higher quality product than the other auto companies.

As the UAW moved to a monolithic position in regard to ALL of the auto companies, this hurt the smaller companies in favor of the larger ones with deeper pockets. Basically what happened was that the UAW used Studebaker as a club to beat the other auto companies until it was Studebaker that was lagging and unable to match the others in wages and benefits.

A sad,sad story of what appears to be good guys getting shafted by a union with purview over an entire industry and uninterested in 'family relation' type agreements.

23 posted on 05/06/2009 5:00:07 PM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: Leisler

Unions have a tebdency to strke places shut, and that includes cities like Detroit.


24 posted on 05/06/2009 5:17:52 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: B-Chan

At leas the glory of America and what she once was.


25 posted on 05/06/2009 6:21:31 PM PDT by nobama08
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To: Springman; sergeantdave; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; ...

If you would like to be added or dropped from the Michigan ping list, please freepmail me.


26 posted on 05/06/2009 6:35:07 PM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: Leisler; grellis; All

Good article thanks for posting. Thanks for the ping, grellis. Convince 1/2 million FReepers and like-minded citizens from around the world to move to Detroit and you could create one of the premier cities on the planet in a relatively short amount of time.


27 posted on 05/06/2009 7:42:34 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: grellis

I was born in Detroit in ‘65, since we had a family business tied in to the auto industry I grew up listening to the family talk about this very topic my whole life.

We left the city and moved to the “suburbs” (Brighton) when it became unsafe to walk to the corner store any more. Our business located down on Davison Ave. turned into Fort Apache with Constantino wire and barred windows, my father, uncle and grandfather all drove with a shotgun in the car even though it was a sure jail sentence or at least a hefty fine if they were ever pulled over.

Sometimes I think the best thing that could happen to that city now is a wind storm during a drought in August with 0% humidity and a dropped match, just let it go and start over from scratch.


28 posted on 05/07/2009 5:33:57 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar
"Sometimes I think the best thing that could happen to that city now is a wind storm during a drought in August with 0% humidity and a dropped match, just let it go and start over from scratch."

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Nawlins too ???

29 posted on 05/07/2009 5:39:30 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: Abathar

It’s important for you younger folks to know that the Reuther brothers of UAW fame actually went to Russia in the 1930s and worked in auto factories there to study the communist system.
a quote:
At the end of the trip he wrote, “the atmosphere of freedom and security, shop meetings with their proletarian industrial democracy; all these things make an inspiring contrast to what we know as Ford wage slaves in Detroit. What we have experienced here has reeducated us along new and more practical lines.”


30 posted on 05/07/2009 5:40:50 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: litehaus

There are a few cities that would be a net plus if we did that to, NOL is a good example also.


31 posted on 05/07/2009 5:50:10 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Recon Dad
Actually management caved in because the law forced them to.

It wasn't until the Taft-Hartley Act was passed in 1946, that businesses got some relief from FDR's henchmen.

32 posted on 05/07/2009 5:59:03 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: nascarnation

I have seen the union scourge and listened to their justifications my whole life, and I don’t buy any of it.

I always enjoyed watching the union workers wearing their jackets around town, the coats had the huge logos on both front and back, but no where on that coat was the name of the company that signed their paychecks and put food in their families bellies.

Once someone puts the union above the employer in the food chain of importance then you might as well write him off for the rest of his employment, he is a worthless leach then.


33 posted on 05/07/2009 5:59:03 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: kromike
Just one problem with that update--liberals are completely intolerant of pro-lifers. Actually, liberals are pretty much completely intolerant of Christians.
34 posted on 05/07/2009 6:01:25 AM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: Abathar

Having worked in UAW shops for 40+ years as a salary employee, I can guarantee that most of the workers truly felt that they worked for the union, not for the company.
The union was very effective at propagandizing the workplace with a “them vs us” mentality.
If you study the history of the Reuther brothers, it’s all in the playbook.
Now the Baraqqis are going to use taxpayer money to subsidize their $3200/month retirement payments and platinum benefits.


35 posted on 05/07/2009 6:22:56 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: grellis
Well, yeah.

That 'update' is 100% certified, pure-grade, tongue-in-cheek.

'Tolerant Liberal' is the Mother of all Oxymorons.

;)

36 posted on 05/07/2009 7:58:05 AM PDT by kromike
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To: grellis
Say what you want about Detroit. You just can't duplicate it's ambiance

37 posted on 05/07/2009 8:34:41 AM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Leisler

bump


38 posted on 05/07/2009 9:14:54 AM PDT by gibsosa
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To: EQAndyBuzz

George and Wheezie are in the White House!


39 posted on 05/08/2009 6:45:19 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (FreepMail me if you want on the Bourbon ping list!)
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