[editor-surveyor]

"The problem with having an “honest debate” between “evolution” (aka, all of modern biology) and creationism/intelligent-design/whatever is that one side is saying “it’s magic! any evidence to the contrary can be explained by more magic!”, which makes any kind of scientific debate a pointless exercise."

Problem for you is that its the evolution gang that is banking on magic.

Mathematics demolishes evolution right out of the gate; chemistry comes right behind, with 150 years of intense work in an attempt to 'aid' the process of bringing life from non-life, on the back of over 500 billion dollars of funding, without even a glimmer of success.

Meanwhile the 'fossil record' proves itself to be simply the aftermath of the "flood."

You're looking for some powerful magic!

[gorush]

I was in total agreement until...Meanwhile the 'fossil record' proves itself to be simply the aftermath of the "flood."

I agree that the fossil record appears to disprove evolution but I don't view it as proof of creationism.