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To: Filo
Meanwhile, the point you are dodging still stands. There will be some people who collect more in prebates than they pay in taxes. You cannot deny that.

Oh really? Because you say it? Time to take your meds Filo.

Since that is true the program becomes socialist. Period.

Ditto the previous.

And yet in the years you FT idiots have been spouting none of that has been incorporated. I wonder why?

No need to wonder Filo. You haven't read the latest version of the legislation. It doesn't mean it won't be changed though. And for you to call anyone an idiot is a tad beyond your own status, eh Filo Fredo?

The point we were discussing, since you clearly can't remember post to post, was that the FT does nothing to address spending which is a far more significant problem than collection.

For the upteenth time for your poor memory, the FairTax is Tax Law, not Spending Law.

And yet you cannot cite the portion of The Constitution that authorizes this, can you? Nope. You can't. There isn't one.

Sure there is Filo. It's crystal clear. Congress shall have the power to lay and collect taxes. Now the words 'lay' and 'collect' are not redundant. Lay means to establish for implementation and administration. The FairTax simply states that all RETAIL purchases AFTER spending beyond the poverty line shall be taxed at a rate set by Congress each year. This tax and how it is administered is completely Constitutional without the 16th Amendment by design.

How this 'taxation on spending above poverty' is administered can be done in a number of ways.

1. Honor system. People can say they spent more than the poverty level and volunteer to pay the NRST (never would work).
2. Smart cards can be issued to all qualified individuals and families to monitor their purchases (never happen and illegal intrusion).
3. Rebate every American the tax up to the poverty line. Yep, that will be workable using today's technology and capability. Too bad it wasn't feasible in 1913 or thereafter. We wouldn't have the 16th today.

Well Filo, that's your lesson for today.

Run along now unless of course you need to have one of your Fredo moments "I'm smart! I deserve respect!"

217 posted on 05/12/2009 7:43:13 AM PDT by Hostage
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To: Hostage
Oh really? Because you say it?

No, because it's patently obvious. . . at least to those of us with even a little bit of sense.

Time to take your meds Filo.

Which explains how you've achieved your level of idiocy, I guess.

It doesn't mean it won't be changed though.

Actually it kind-of does. It's not like there hasn't been ample opportunity. . .

For the upteenth time for your poor memory, the FairTax is Tax Law, not Spending Law.

Which is exactly why it's worthless. Deck chairs/Titanic.

Sure there is Filo. It's crystal clear. Congress shall have the power to lay and collect taxes.

Which has nothing to do with the question asked.

I've already agreed that the government has the right to collect taxes.

Your task, which you'll never accomplish, is to show me where The Constitution permits the Federal government to engage in the socialistic redistribution of wealth.

Collecting the money is legal.

How they are spending it (welfare, medicare, medicaid, etc.) is not.

You're not even smart enough to answer the wrong question right so I can't imagine you'll be able to address the right question with any intellect.
219 posted on 05/12/2009 8:16:04 AM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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