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To: reaganaut

For one who had been an insider, I would well think it’s a different perspective than one who has never walked through the door of a Mormon temple.

If the Mormons actually managed to produce a “clean living” presidential hopeful who walked the talk, and did not overtly involve his church in his politics, I wouldn’t count that as being any worse than a (Rabbinical) Jew or a Buddhist in the same situation — none are Christians but that is not the position they are being considered for.


831 posted on 05/04/2009 1:00:12 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

If the Mormons actually managed to produce a “clean living” presidential hopeful who walked the talk, and did not overtly involve his church in his politics

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The problem is that person DOES NOT EXIST (other than maybe a “jack” mormon). For the LDS, the CHURCH (not Christ) is their life. You cannot vote to ‘sustain’ all the prophets and apostles every six months and then turn around and say “you can’t advise me on civic matters” (one of the fundamentals of following the LDS prophet is that he may adivse on civic matters). There is also a strong element of control by the leadership (even at the local level).

And for a Mormon that has been through the Temple? One of the oaths they are required to take is this:

You and each of you covenant and promise before God, angels, and these witnesses at this altar, that you do accept the law of consecration as contained in this, the book of Doctrine and Covenants [he displays the book], in that you do consecrate yourselves, your time, talents, and everything with which the Lord has blessed you, or with which he may bless you, to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, for the building up of the kingdom of God on the earth and for the establishment of Zion.

They take that oath VERY seriously. And will place it above the constitution if necessary.

And we are not electing a pope, but I do want to see someone that will not place ANOTHER ORGANIZATION above the Constitution as CIC.


833 posted on 05/04/2009 1:28:46 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: HiTech RedNeck
If the Mormons actually managed to produce a “clean living” presidential hopeful who walked the talk, and did not overtly involve his church in his politics, I wouldn’t count that as being any worse than a (Rabbinical) Jew or a Buddhist in the same situation — none are Christians but that is not the position they are being considered for.

The difference being, not too many Jews or Buddists claim to be Christians.

844 posted on 05/04/2009 3:56:40 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Selah)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; reaganaut
For one who had been an insider, I would well think it’s a different perspective than one who has never walked through the door of a Mormon temple.

Are you saying you were once Mormon? Or just reiterating that reaganaut was?

860 posted on 05/04/2009 5:33:31 AM PDT by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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