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To: Oldpuppymax
  "A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun, therefore, be the constant companion of your walks." --Thomas Jefferson to Peter Carr, 1785. ME 5:85, Papers 8:407

"The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed." --Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824. ME 16:45

"One loves to possess arms, though they hope never to have occasion for them." --Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1796. ME 9:341

"No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms (within his own lands or tenements)." --Thomas Jefferson: Draft Virginia Constitution (with his note added), 1776. Papers 1:353

"None but an armed nation can dispense with a standing army. To keep ours armed and disciplined is therefore at all times important." --Thomas Jefferson to -----, 1803. ME 10:365

I can think of no reason on Earth to believe anything any gun grabber says about the intent of the 2nd amendment really meaning anything else other than exactly what it says in plain English.  You don't become any more founding fatherly than this man.


47 posted on 04/28/2009 8:10:49 AM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Obama: "I didn't authorize attacks on those pirates." I authorized a tax on those pirates!")
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To: HawaiianGecko
While I agree wholeheartedly with your selected quotations and your reasoning, liberals think (that is a stretch) that we have made progress since 1770’s. Therefore we should have no real need for weapons. They also believe that government and law officers are all the armed protection the citizenry (sheep) requires.

Conservatives, lovers of liberty and freedom, have a distinctly different view. We understand that there will always be people/governments that seek to control us.

84 posted on 04/28/2009 9:18:35 AM PDT by Tahoe3002 (Politicians = Proof Positive that Crime does Pay.)
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