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To: Kansas58
We MUST do what we did.

You think we put cigarettes out on people's eyeballs? Because that's what your question was about, remember?

Waterboarding those NOT covered by Geneva Conventions and NOT covered by the US Constitution (non citizens) was LAWFULLY SANCTIONED by the United States Government!

So what? The Geneva Conventions have nothing to do with the torture statute, which was written to enforce the torture treaty we signed only about twenty years ago. And btw, "under color of law" and "lawful" do not mean the same thing. You're begging the question.

48 posted on 04/25/2009 12:24:09 PM PDT by Sandy
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To: Sandy
I did, true, say “cigarettes in eyeballs” -— however, I also said, “terrorists who were not covered by Geneva and were not US Citizens who were captured on foreign soil” -—

If someone planted a nuclear device, ready for detonation, and was later captured, I do think that the President has the duty, right and ability to “sanction” whatever it takes to get information vital to protect life, thousands of lives. The pain is not the point, the pain is “incidental” to gaining vital information. The President, who can “sanction” the launch of a nuclear missile, which will kill millions, SURELY has the right and duty and ability to “sanction” a cigarette in an eyeball, to PREVENT the death of millions!

YES Geneva is important, primarily because the brain dead leftists bring it up constantly, and treaty obligations are FAR more important than any act of Congress.

The Geneva Conventions do NOT give POW protection to terrorists!

The statute that YOU rely upon also has very broad exceptions.

49 posted on 04/25/2009 12:36:35 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Sandy
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I am fully aware of what “under color of law” means.

That would seem to make the Clinton administration guilty of torture, since Clinton handed terrorists over to foreign countries, had THEM do the dirty work, with REAL torture, and then Clinton benefited from the information that was obtained!

That is the very definition of “under color of law” lol.

50 posted on 04/25/2009 12:38:38 PM PDT by Kansas58
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