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Judiciary Committee greenlights 'hate crimes': Members refuse to protect Christian pastors...
World Net Daily ^ | April 23, 2009 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 04/23/2009 11:00:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Members of the U.S. House Judiciary Committee today rejected an opportunity to protect Christian pastors who preach the biblical condemnation of homosexuality and approved on a 15-12 vote a "hate crimes" bill that supporters admit could be used to bring charges against religious leaders.

The bill, H.R. 1913, now will be considered by the full House of Representatives.

The committee rejected a number of amendments offered by several members seeking to protect religious liberty, to protect the unborn, to protect against violence by illegal aliens, and to clarify the bill's meanings of "gender identity" and "sexual orientation."

One of the rejected proposals was offered by Rep. Louis Gohmert, R-Texas, who sought to ensure ministers could not be prosecuted for abetting a "hate crime" simply because they preach from the Bible or another religious book.

When a nearly identical plan was developed in the last Congress, Rep. Artur Davis, D-Ala., admitted during a hearing on the bill it could be used to prosecute pastors merely for preaching under the premise that they could be "inducing" violence in someone.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government
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To: briarbey b; 2ndDivisionVet

NOW comes the back lash of the beloved 501c3 tax exempt status, that all the churches have bought in to.

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My pastor has seen this coming for a long time. His response? “Go ahead take away our tax status. We don’t care. Go ahead, arrest me. I will NEVER stop preaching the Word of God.”


61 posted on 04/29/2009 6:46:59 PM PDT by reaganaut ("When we FACE UP to the Majesty of God, we will find ourselves FACE DOWN in Worship" - Matt Redman)
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To: lowbridge

Thats not going to happen. This law will be applied one way: against Christians. The Koran wont be touched. The bible will get banned.

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It is like living in one of those “end times” movies (Left Behind, Tribulation, Omega Code, The Moment After).


62 posted on 04/29/2009 6:51:09 PM PDT by reaganaut ("When we FACE UP to the Majesty of God, we will find ourselves FACE DOWN in Worship" - Matt Redman)
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To: aNYCguy

And if you can’t see how the following will be used against Pastors and the churches, well, clueless doesn’t really describe you.

“What is a Hate Crime?

Congress, in Section 280003(a) of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 (28 U.S.C. 994 note), defines a hate crime as a crime in which the defendant intentionally selects a victim, or in the case of a property crime, the property that is the object of the crime, because of the actual or perceived race, color, national origin, ethnicity, gender, disability, or sexual orientation of any person.”

Sounds like it was you who didn’t read the Bill.


63 posted on 04/29/2009 8:16:19 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Quick justice for the senseless killing of Marine Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield.)
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To: fwdude
Yours is the reply of someone who really, really feels persecuted, but can't get the facts to support that feeling in any way. Go ahead and have the last word, and please use the word "incrementalism" at least once.
64 posted on 04/29/2009 8:38:37 PM PDT by aNYCguy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Either the First Amendment means what it says or it doesn’t.

The Supreme Court MUST toss this out. If not, the Republic really is over, and it’s time to work on what comes next.


65 posted on 04/29/2009 8:43:22 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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