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U.S. Is Said to Prepare Filing for Chrysler Bankruptcy
The New York Times ^
| April 23, 2009
| By MICHELINE MAYNARD and MICHAEL J. de la MERCED
Posted on 04/23/2009 12:48:06 PM PDT by MaestroLC
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The accomplishments of Obama's first 100 days continue to mount...
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posted on
04/23/2009 12:48:07 PM PDT
by
MaestroLC
To: MaestroLC
Bush should have done this. How many billions down the drain?
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posted on
04/23/2009 12:49:33 PM PDT
by
jalisco555
("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
To: jalisco555
“Bush should have done this. How many billions down the drain?”
Have you read the plan? It’s not a bankruptcy - it’s a UAW bailout with a “bankruptcy” label. Taxpayers pay for the UAW health and pension benefits. It’s an outrage.
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posted on
04/23/2009 12:52:01 PM PDT
by
MittFan08
To: jalisco555
So now YOU the people can keep on paying the retirement benefits for overfed, underworked, overpaid auto makers in Detroit that rode their pony into the ground!
To: MaestroLC
The seeds of Chrysler’s and GM’s bankruptcies were sown decades before Obama came into office, when labor liberals decided to make it damned near impossible for a company to say no to any demand from a labor union.
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posted on
04/23/2009 12:52:19 PM PDT
by
Thane_Banquo
(President George W. Bush, RINO-in-Chief.)
To: MaestroLC
United Automobile Workers union, whose members pensions and retiree health care benefits would be protected as a condition of the bankruptcy filing...
I wish my 401K would have been protected...Can you spare a bailout brother?
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posted on
04/23/2009 12:52:26 PM PDT
by
TSgt
(Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
To: MaestroLC
Smells like a Sunday night filing.
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posted on
04/23/2009 12:52:37 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
To: jalisco555
The devil is in the details. What guarantees are they really given the UAW? Are they saving the UAW at the expense of the lenders?
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posted on
04/23/2009 12:53:38 PM PDT
by
Oldexpat
To: MittFan08
Yes it is an outrage, but if the autos go, we will pay for the pensions anyway just like the Airlines.
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posted on
04/23/2009 12:53:52 PM PDT
by
nyconse
(When you buy something, make an investment in your country. Buy Amrican or bye bye America)
To: MittFan08
Have you read the plan? Its not a bankruptcy - its a UAW bailout with a bankruptcy label. Taxpayers pay for the UAW health and pension benefits. Its an outrage.Which is why Bush should have done this. He should have forced a real Chapter 11, not this phony UAW bailout in disguise. The billions down the drain are in the future as well as the past. And if you think this is bad wait until GM files.
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posted on
04/23/2009 12:53:58 PM PDT
by
jalisco555
("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
To: MaestroLC
United Automobile Workers union, whose members pensions and retiree health care benefits would be protected as a condition of the bankruptcy filingSince when are conditions a part of Chapter 11?
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posted on
04/23/2009 12:54:10 PM PDT
by
Dedbone
To: jalisco555
I can't even imagine the uproar from Democrats if Bush would have done that. Not necessarily because it would have been right or wrong but because it was Bush.
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posted on
04/23/2009 12:54:15 PM PDT
by
Russ
(Repeal the 17th amendment)
To: jalisco555
Bush should not have done this, or what he did.
The Treasury Department is preparing a Chapter 11 bankruptcy filing for Chrysler
Is appalling.
Treasury has an agreement in principle with the United Automobile Workers union
Who cares? It's Chrysler's business and Treasury should have no say in their bk decisions.
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posted on
04/23/2009 12:54:19 PM PDT
by
D-fendr
(Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
To: MaestroLC
HUH?
How in the world can the petitioner, in a BK filing, dictate terms?
The pensions are protected by the Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation. Besides, Pensions liabilities are supposed to be funded in advance of need, FAR in advance of need, so I do not see the relevance here. It is just Obama trying to act like he is doing something.
On the health insurance issue? This is ridiculous! Why should GM continue to fund an expense that does NOTHING for the current competitiveness of GM?
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posted on
04/23/2009 12:54:21 PM PDT
by
Kansas58
To: MaestroLC
"United Automobile Workers union, whose members
pensions and retiree health care benefits would be protected as a condition of the bankruptcy filing"
I find this heinous.
Let them get 22¢ on the $ like the bondholders. They've been overcompensated and underworked for years. It will average out.
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posted on
04/23/2009 12:54:47 PM PDT
by
ChicagahAl
(Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
To: MikeWUSAF
They are sacrificing current workers though it appears. I don’t know how many more job losses we can absorb and still climb out of this mess.
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posted on
04/23/2009 12:55:00 PM PDT
by
nyconse
(When you buy something, make an investment in your country. Buy Amrican or bye bye America)
To: MaestroLC
Has the Treasury Department previously been involved in the preparation of a Chapter 11 bankruptcy? I thought the Justice dept. would be the likely place to file.
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posted on
04/23/2009 12:55:38 PM PDT
by
iopscusa
(El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
To: D-fendr
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posted on
04/23/2009 12:55:56 PM PDT
by
jalisco555
("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
To: MaestroLC
The Treasury has an agreement in principle with the United Automobile Workers union, whose members pensions and retiree health care benefits would be protected as a condition of the bankruptcy filing
How about Chrysler itself, did 0 discuss this with them at all? Or better yet, have they discussed it with the American people who are going to keep the UAW and by extension, democrat votes, flush with cash?
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posted on
04/23/2009 12:56:44 PM PDT
by
kenth
(He won? No, he zero.)
To: MaestroLC
"..The only major question that remains unresolved is what happens to Chryslers lenders, who hold $6.9 billion in company debt. The governments most recent offer, presented Wednesday, would give the companys lenders about 22 cents on the dollar, or $1.5 billion, and a 5 percent equity stake in a reorganized Chrysler..."
That practically guarantees no private entity will be lending money to a reorganized Chrysler. The US is in the Car Business permanently if they want Chrysler to survive.
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