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To: djsherin

Well, it doesn’t just come down to right to secede but also to whether the U.S. Government will allow it. And you can see from one example that they will not allow it.

They have many “mechanisms” in place to disallow that — and that’s why it’s a “textbook example” of what will happen if states try to secede. The same thing will happen.

Use them as that example. And *also* use them for the “precedent” in seceding in helping them *actually accomplish* the secession from the U.S. Then you set up the groundwork for any other state to do so....


87 posted on 04/22/2009 8:36:01 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler
Well, it doesn’t just come down to right to secede but also to whether the U.S. Government will allow it. And you can see from one example that they will not allow it.

In other words, you don't think that Texas has the right to secede because the federal government has the power to stop them? The rule of law is irrelevant to this discussion? I disagree with your premise, as do most freepers and most patriotic Americans.

I want the United States to remain one country, and I want a federal government (of the people, by the people, and for the people) that will follow the Constitution and earn the right to continue governing all 50 states. At least at the moment, I believe it would be better for Texas and all other states to remain in the union despite Obama's serious flaws. I hope we both agree on each of those points.

Where we differ is that I don't believe that I have the right (or that Obama has the right) to compel Texas to remain under federal rule if the people of Texas decide that the abuses of the Obama government are intolerable. Are you saying that Obama has not just the power to conquer Texas if he so chooses but also the right to do so? Or are values irrelevant and you are just addressing the practical question of whether the State of Texas and the people of Texas could secede against the will of a tyrant?

134 posted on 04/22/2009 9:13:33 AM PDT by TurtleUp (Turtle up: cancel optional spending until 2012, and boycott TARP/stimulus companies forever!)
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