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To: freedomwarrior998

Ok...for the judicially challenged (me), what does this mean?


9 posted on 04/20/2009 10:15:00 AM PDT by ironwill (I want my daddy's records.)
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To: ironwill
The 9th Circuit "incorporated" the 2nd Amendment. IOW: The Second applies to the States (at least in the 9th Circuit) via the 14th Amendment.

Absent incorporation, the Amendment would not have applied to the States.

12 posted on 04/20/2009 10:17:05 AM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: ironwill

Means that the states have to respect citizens’ RKBA, that the states have to obey the 2nd Amendment. (Perversely, the Supreme Court has required individual court cases to impose the Bill Of Rights on the states, per the 14th Amendment, one right at a time - and the 2nd hasn’t been so ruled on.)


15 posted on 04/20/2009 10:19:24 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: ironwill

I believe it means that the states are bound to allow people to keep and bear arms as well.
One judge stated (paraphrasing) that people should because of terrorism and as well for a rogue government to defend themselves and the constitution.

It may hurt gun shows, but it solidifies the position of people being able to keep guns I think.
If so Obama must be fuming at this point.


38 posted on 04/20/2009 10:38:56 AM PDT by Munz ("We're all here for you OK? It's a circle of love" Rham Emanuel)
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To: ironwill

Maybe it means the 9th circuit, activist all, would rather see the gun issue fought state by state entirely rather than from a united, inclusive national, Constitutional position underpinned by the all-important Second Amendment. No doubt the 9th Circuit would like to see a Constitutional Convention over the issue so even more changes might be in the offing...maybe a Soviet or UN style Constitution. Another good way to disunite the country and increase the “efficiency” of govt. without public “interference” by pesky citizens.

Without the second amendment nationally applied to all states, the states may divide into “wet and dry” gun rights states under the 10th Amendment with all the accompanying problems with a huge number of increased interstate “border” problems. With such a windfall, drug cartels and their foreign allies will get into interstate and intrastate gun running in an even bigger way with further infiltration into state and especially county govts. Disuniting and instrumental in initiating and sustaining further chaos fits right in with the Cloward-Piven strategy. “Gun-running” will become pervasive if the 9th Circuit is allowed to prevail. It is better for the States to fight their own defense of the 2nd Amendment abolition, but keep it instituted at a national, Constitutional level as it is now. The 9th Circuit is a Serial Pandoras’ Box Opener.

The 9th Circuit has seized an “opportunity” to foster potential elimination the Constitutional Second Amendment and create a Constitutional “crisis”. And, again, with the Cloward-Piven Strategy in mind, and, in self-proclaimed clear conscience that the States themselves have “caused” the problem, the 9th Circuit is acting to further the demise of the Second Amendment. By emphasizing the 10th Amendment in an attempt to strengthen States Rights with special attention to the gun issue, the 9th Circuit seems to be saying that the country can no longer have both the 1oth Amendment and the 2nd Amendment at the same time, and that is is practical from their point of view that it is the Second Amendment that must go.

From the 9th Circuit Court?...no surprise here except for the ingenuity of methods to further the cause of deconstruction and chaos.

Keeping the Constitution as well as States Rights intact is of the greatest importance, especially with a POTUS and political party who do not like it as it has existed and does exist. The 9th Circuit is meddling once again in a way that will do the country no good at all.


49 posted on 04/20/2009 10:50:43 AM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan Meet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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