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Why Obama will never show his vault birth certificate.
The Greater Evil ^ | 04/13/09 | Polarik

Posted on 04/13/2009 9:04:32 PM PDT by Polarik

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To: SatinDoll

What was Rahm doing when he disappeared in Africa for a couple of weeks around Christmas? Clean up?


161 posted on 04/18/2009 11:43:28 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: mojitojoe

I have no idea what he was doing in Africa for two weeks. Vacation, maybe? Sneaking off for a visit to Israel?

I keep insisting that he works for Mossad, but responses here to that posit are all negative and expressed obscenely.


162 posted on 04/18/2009 11:55:08 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: SatinDoll

I assume that there’s no requirement for release of the breakdown of the legal bill, only the total amount paid. Therefore, we don’t know how much related to eligibility lawsuits. There was also presumably a fair amount of legal work relating to other issues. One example is the finances, including the transfer of funds to the DNC. (Navigating the complexities of campaign finance law is no joke. My guess is that it can get expensive.) Another example: The non-legal expenditures included almost a million bucks for “event staging”, so there were probably issues of permit applications, vendor contracts, and other stuff for the lawyers in connection with whatever those events were. (What events were they? I thought the Inauguration was paid for out of a separate account.)

It’s an interesting article, and I thank you for providing the link. The bottom line, though, is that we still don’t know the bottom line. We know that Obama has been represented by counsel in multiple cases in different states. We also know that Obama had lawyers other than Bauer’s firm doing some of that defense work, so the total bill is presumably more than whatever Bauer was paid for eligibility litigation. On the other hand, we know that some of the defense work was done by state attorneys general or other lawyers representing state officials, and thus was no expense to Obama. The biggest gap is that we don’t know how much of Bauer’s bill related to eligibility.

These are private expenditures, not taxpayer dollars, so my guess is that we never will know the number.


163 posted on 04/19/2009 1:07:34 PM PDT by Eagle Forgotten
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To: Polarik; SatinDoll

Time to bump this to the top again ...


164 posted on 05/04/2009 12:10:18 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

What a coincidence! I sent you an amail before I read this


165 posted on 05/04/2009 2:33:08 PM PDT by Polarik (Forgeries are forever)
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To: Polarik
Here is Gov (commerce secretary elect)Bill Richardson saying in Spanish that Obama is an "immigrant." (So he understands understands "immigrant" issues.)The context suggests that by "immigrant" bill richardson means "illegal immigrant"



Here in plain English is the Kenyan Ambassador saying that Obama is born in Kenya.



Obama's own flacks deny that obama was born in Kenya but do acknowledge that he had a dual citizenship up until 1982

from obama's own site factcheck.org by way of fightthesmears on his dual citizenship at birth

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”
Someone will want to cache the above web page because it will be taken down eventually.
It is well established that Obama did travel to Indonesia and Pakistan in 1981. In a tape of his speech at this April 6, 2008 San Francisco Fundraiser, Obama discloses his trip to Pakistan (40:17) when he was in college. On what passport did he travel?

A last arguement for baraks people might be that of course the Kenyans would have an interest in claiming that obama was a "son of the soil" both as a matter of pride and as a matter of bucks coming their way. However, if Obama was not born in Kenya -- then why wouldn't Obama release his original long form birth certificate. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has paid his lawyers 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. Exactly What IS a Natural Born Citizen?

The thing has become a joke in washington. dJoe Biden Joked at the Gridiron Dinner in March 09.

After mentioning one of the Republican speakers for the evening, Arnold Schwarzenegger, was born in Austria and that one of the Democratic speakers, Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm, was born in Canada, Biden chortled: "Folks, this is going to be Lou Dobbs' worst nightmare. "

From there, Biden transitioned to the birth certificate controversy.

Les Kinsolving asked the Presidential Press Secretary Gibbs to release the long form birth certificate. The press secretary suggested mockingly that the copy of the short form birth certificate supplied online is Obama's long form birth certificate. Not so. See the press conference out take here.
166 posted on 06/01/2009 1:20:01 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: Polarik
A detroit radio station called the Kenyan embassy after the election of Obama. After a a few minutes they get through to the ambassador of Kenya.

The ambassador of Kenya says that obama was born in Kenya and that his birth place has become a national shrine.

Listen to the recording here

The quote is around 12:35, so if you don’t have time to listen to the whole thing, you can jump ahead.
The transcript reads:

Radio Jockey: President elect Obama's birth place over in Kenya -- is that going to be a national spot where he was born

Ambassador Peter Ogego: its already an attraction. his paternal grandmother is still alive

Radio Jockey:But his birth place...they'll put up a marker there

Ambassdor Peter Ogego: It would depend on the government. Its already well known.

Here is an abridged Utube version of the the radio interview. So you can hear just the relevant parts.

It can be reasonably pointed out that the DJ was trying to entrap the Ambassador and that the Ambassador fell into his trap.
However, if you listen to the long version of the radio interview --you’ll notice he used the same strategy on two different occasions and the ambassador gently brushed him off.

First, he tried to force the ambassador to sing the Kenyan national anthem. The ambassador referred him to the kenyan website.

Second he tried to push the ambassador into saying something about maybe Kenya becoming the 51st state. Again the ambassador said that Kenya was a sovereign country. ie No.

He used the same technique on the question of Obama’s birth place. This time the ambassador did not brush him off. Rather in answer to the question as to whether Obama was born in Kenya --he says "It is well known."

Because the ambassador answered no in the two previous examples -- you can't say that the ambassdor was either a fool or ill advised.

Finally, you might ask well doesn't he know that saying Obama is born in Kenya would make trouble for Obama? The answer there is why should he be concerned? He has heard no suggestion in the mainstream media that there might be a problem there. So to say what is already well known--as he says--would be no problem.

Here is a utube video of Ambassador Peter Ogego speaking at a conference. Ambassador of Kenya H.E. Peter Ogego To verify that the voice on the radio is Ambassador Ogego-- compare the radio voice with the DJ to the voice on the Utube that goes with Ambassador Ogego. Ambassador Peter Ogego is introduced a bit after minute 18..

They are the same.


Subsequently, the Kenyan ambassador said that he meant Obama's father was born in Kenya. However, when pressed about Obama's birth place:

"I don't know," he said with a tone of irritation. "You should ask your government. I know his father is Kenyan."

However, that's not what the original transcript suggests. clear="all" /> Finally, there is a Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae which is part of the Berg case. The Bishop says pretty much the same thing as the Ambassador.

"Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propaganda here in the United States, US Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the Obama campaign for presidency of the United States."

While you cannot impeach the ambassador's character, you can impeach McCrae's character. After all, he's just an itinerant preacher. But McCrae has been to Kenya. Still that makes two people who say that it is common knowledge in Kenya that Obama was born in Kenya.
Then of course there is a video of Obama's grandmother saying that Obama is born in in her village in Kenya
There is a case to be made that Obama mother didn't mean Obama was born in her town but rather that he is a "son of this village". If taken alone, she could well be ignored. However, her take is in keeping with others both high and low.

Again here is a pdf transcript of Kenyan National Assembly on Nov 5, 2008, the day after Obama was elected. Over and over again there are references to Obama being a "son of the soil" of Kenya and a Kenyan. On page page 3275 there is this passage:

HOUSE SHOULD ADJOURN TO DISCUSS ELECTION OF MR. BARRACK OBAMA

Ms. Odhiambo: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is not on this issue. I stand on a point of order under Standing Order No.20 to seek leave for adjournment of the House to discuss the American presidential election results.

(Applause)

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country. Every other country in this continent is celebrating the Obama win. It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates from should show the same excitement, pomp and colour.



Again. It is not the one thing. Rather it is the tide.

The American Thinker explains here why the short form that Obama released is not sufficient for Hawaii. The Obama administration could put this to rest by releasing his long form birth certificate. But he doesn't. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has paid his lawyers over 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. Why bother. The Arnold would have run for president long ago and likely won if he were a "natural born" american. He's not. He's naturalized. So he can't run. And he knows it. (though there were some trial balloons sent up a couple years back about changing the law--that went nowhere.)

Like the Arnold, Obama looks to be a naturalized citizen--but maybe he's not even that.
167 posted on 06/01/2009 1:21:13 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: SatinDoll

A group of anti-Obama researchers in Hawaii used personal networking to establish inside contacts at ALL hospitals in the state of Hawaii. Those insiders went through hospital records and discovered that the President’s mother, Stanley Anne (Dunham) Obama, had never been in any of those hospitals during 1961. Barak H. Obama claims to have been born in Hawaii during August 4, 1961.

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Now if you could just document that.


168 posted on 06/01/2009 1:24:35 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: ckilmer

In August of 1961 she was in the Pacific Northwest. Stanley Anne D. Obama attended the University of Washington in Seattle, WA. She rented a house in Seattle that summer of 1961. She earned a BS in Mathematics spring of 1963.

There are several investigative authors collecting research information about Obama, Bob Woodward among them.

The truth is going to come out eventually because Liberals, even more than Conservatives, hate being lied to and made to appear stupid and gullible.


169 posted on 06/01/2009 3:11:31 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: SatinDoll

In August of 1961 she was in the Pacific Northwest. Stanley Anne D. Obama attended the University of Washington in Seattle, WA. She rented a house in Seattle that summer of 1961. She earned a BS in Mathematics spring of 1963.
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Yeah, I have read that from time to time. But you have to have documentation. That way you lay one document over top the narrative provided by obama to show that his narrative isn’t true.


170 posted on 06/01/2009 5:04:29 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: Polarik

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171 posted on 12/27/2010 5:35:54 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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