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Windows 7: 83% Of Businesses Won't Deploy Next Year
Information Week ^ | Ar 13, 2009 | Paul McDougall

Posted on 04/13/2009 7:00:03 PM PDT by dayglored

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To: Minn; Bloody Sam Roberts
Strange. I've seen nothing but XP on desktops. Why would an accountant, or anybody else, have a server OS on their desktop?

The server versions can run on systems four physical processors rather than just two.

61 posted on 04/13/2009 8:29:01 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Minn

Nevermind #57. I guess, years and years ago, there was Win 2000 client and Win 2000 server. It’s been so long since I’ve seen either one of them anywhere, I forgot there was a desktop version. If I recall, W2K server was a marginally improved NT server, and W2K was the same thing with limited server connectivity. Far more stable than win 95/98, but seriously lacking in the plug and play department, and sporting clunky things like terminal services rather than remote desktop. It also didn’t support dynamic IPs very well. Are you really sure you see this on corporate desktops today?


62 posted on 04/13/2009 8:31:45 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: dayglored

It depends on who you ask, if the team leader works on Vista, so will his cohorts. However, most team leaders where I work prefer XP.
However, the switchover IS going to happen, for one very simple reason: Vista-64 (and hence Windows 7-64) are by far the best-supported and user-friendly 64-bit OSes out there (better, by far, than XP x64). When people want to use more memory than 4 GBs, they’ll eventually switchover.


63 posted on 04/13/2009 8:46:37 PM PDT by ClaudiusI
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To: Mr. Blonde

You tell me.

I need information off the web.

The ability to run/create sites locally.

The ability to read and write text/spreadsheets/slide shows.

I could care less about the rest of the crap.

Why do I need to upgrade to Adobe Acrobat Reader 10 when it doesn’t do anything that it didn’t do before?


64 posted on 04/13/2009 8:56:24 PM PDT by PhilosopherStones
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To: ThomasThomas
> Big businesses rarely upgrade the first year a new OS is out. I would like to know if even Microsoft will deploy it in the critical areas?

Yeah, that's an interesting thought.

There may be a dictat that they do so.... Microsoft does try, most of the time, to "Eat their own dog food".

65 posted on 04/13/2009 8:57:11 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: djf
> Late 1994, the director of a project I was working on came to me and told me to prepare a presentation on SDLC and general maintenance tips.... I still see ads on Dice for mainframe sysprogs needed at MS...

That's one hell of a story... wow...

66 posted on 04/13/2009 8:59:17 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Paleo Conservative; rmlew
> The laptop that came with 64-bit Vista, will be upgraded as soon as Windows7 comes out. From what I hear from beta testers, Windows7 is superior to Vista in compatibility and number of bugs.

I've heard that as well.

Do you know if the Vista->Win7 path will allow for in-place upgrade, and whether the result is stable? I've heard conflicting reports....

67 posted on 04/13/2009 9:01:29 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Viking2002
> What the hell ever happened to the good old days when you could just tweak someone's account in the User Mangler, and maybe swap a 72-pin stick of SDRAM or restore someone's Solitaire shortcut? LMAO

HAH! LMAO over here as well... ;-)

68 posted on 04/13/2009 9:03:18 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: PAR35
> I’d love to upgrade my laptop. From Vista to XP.

If you search the vendor's website for XP-compatible drivers, and find what you need, then it is probably worth finding an old copy of XP and a key you used years ago, and seeing if it'll work. Microsoft's EULA will generally allow you two installs (on different hardware) before it bitches at you. And even if it does, you can call the phone number and negotiate with the helpdesk person for a fresh key.

As long as you're not using the old XP license on old hardware, there's no reason you can't install it on your laptop, other than drivers.

But beware -- a lot of laptops were built, by agreement between Microsoft and h/w vendors, to ONLY run Vista drivers.

69 posted on 04/13/2009 9:07:05 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: mamelukesabre
Anybody know if i can resurrect old microsoft works documents in open office?

Usually, yes.

When I switched from MS Windows XP running MSOffice to PCLinux with Open Office recently, I only had one file out of tens of dozens that had any issue at all. It had lots of columns, so perhaps that was the issue.

Back everything up before trying in the original format and have at it.

70 posted on 04/13/2009 9:07:28 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Collect the whole set!)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
> Hopefully Windows 7 versions designed for businesses will be more worth the upgrade. But I still wouldn’t look to put it into production for at least a year after release or the first SP1.

Yep, that seems to be the consensus -- and I feel the same FWIW. It won't be a production OS for at least a year.

71 posted on 04/13/2009 9:08:34 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: mountainbunny

I didn’t ask about office documents. I asked about microsoft works. Totally different...at least I think they are. I can open microsoft word documents in word perfect. I can’t open works documents in word perfect.


72 posted on 04/13/2009 9:23:34 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: mamelukesabre
Sorry - that's what I get for trying to multi-task :)

Does this help?

How can I open Microsoft Works wordprocessor files (.wps)? (^)

73 posted on 04/13/2009 9:32:05 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Collect the whole set!)
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To: mountainbunny

Cool! That’s exactly what I needed!

I’ve got an entire procedural manual at work saved on that good for nothing WORKS! it’s the only thing I have as a works document and I hate it. It’s only used once every three years and the three year thing is coming up next month. As soon as I get a minute, I’m going to convert it over and be done with that worthless WORKS once and for all.


74 posted on 04/13/2009 9:43:24 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: George from New England
The thing I most appreciate about the FR format.

See, most people don't consider the "big picture" of what they are doing, whether it is a C++/C# application, a webpage, or something else. I come from the days when the home computer was a simple creature, only capable of running a single program at a time. Programmers had to be frugal with resources and sharp with their algorithms. On top of that, it was usually one programmer with full control - he didn't need to worry too much about shared interfaces, etc. Code could get pretty sloppy compared to today, but the execution was far more efficient.

This is no longer the case, and I've long believed that the "sloppiness" (in execution terms) of the big picture, with DLLs, COM, etc. each allocating more resources than they need, and doing it on-the-fly, has netted poor performance faster than Moore's law can keep up!

With 30,000x the CPU power of 30 years ago, computers today should boot and start programs in the blink of eye - even if OSes and programs are 1000X more complex. Trouble is, they are 100,000X as complex yet don't need to be.

75 posted on 04/14/2009 12:14:03 AM PDT by Lexinom
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To: dayglored

Thanks. I’m guessing that I’d have some real problems with the wireless on the laptop. It’s the only thing I’ve not been able to get to run under Linux, which I’m using most of the time on that machine.


76 posted on 04/14/2009 4:49:16 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: tacticalogic

Yes. Yet I do see a lot of client machines out there running Win2k and Win2k3.


77 posted on 04/14/2009 5:33:32 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Why the hell is the best damned dance song ever written titled, "Sing, Sing, Sing"?)
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To: rmlew

Win2k8? I have but a small idea what it requires since I haven’t had overmuch exposure to it and I doubt that I have anything close to it at this time. But I have my eye on it for future use.


78 posted on 04/14/2009 5:36:17 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Why the hell is the best damned dance song ever written titled, "Sing, Sing, Sing"?)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Yes. Yet I do see a lot of client machines out there running Win2k and Win2k3.

By "client" do you mean "desktop"? Why would anyone run W2K3 server as a desktop OS?

79 posted on 04/14/2009 6:05:45 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: PAR35
> Thanks. I’m guessing that I’d have some real problems with the wireless on the laptop. It’s the only thing I’ve not been able to get to run under Linux, which I’m using most of the time on that machine.

Well, the situation w.r.t. XP support is better now than it was, say, a year ago, when Microsoft still had hope of strong-arming users into eating Vista. They gave up, and have quietly allowed vendors to post XP drivers for some previously-Vista-only machines. Keyword: "quietly" meaning you may have to snoop around and use google, rather than expect the vendor to announce availability.

80 posted on 04/14/2009 6:34:10 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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