God-Given Rights vs. Man-Given Rights: Why Obama's Bow Matters

Various | 04/09/09 | Reaganesque

[Windflier]

...I don’t think that evidence is as compelling as the other claims.

That's just the point. Obama's holding the evidence, and won't release it.

[muawiyah]

I'd only worry about the bow if he followed it up by kissing the guy's ring on his left hand ~ that's the one he uses to wipe up after defecating.

Did anyone catch that?

[Diogenesis]

Obama bows low and kisses the ring of his King, his benefactors,
but did not pledge his allegience.

"Barack Obama with his good friend and benefactor Salman Ibrahim, in the offices of the infamous Sunrise Equities, Chicago.
Ibrahim is wanted by the FBI in connection with the 2008 Sunrise Equities scam in Chicago,
in which investors were ripped off for a total of approximately $80 million."

[muawiyah]

Wish it were that simple but it's not.

Alas, American law doesn't care what citizenship the parents claimed, nor what the laws of Indonesia say about their children.

There's meat on the bones but you keep nibbling on the cartilege.

[Question_Assumptions]

Correct. I’m referring to the evidence that people have. And you’ll note that I think any American citizen should have the right to ask a court to validate that a candidate meets the requirements to hold their office. So whether he’s hiding anything or not, I think Obama (and McCain and anyone else) should have to show their documentation.

[Diogenesis]

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"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery."
Winston Churchill

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"Bust of Churchill Returned by Obama
"After the September 11th attacks our British allies loaned President George Bush
a bust of one of the greatest Britons the world has ever known, Sir Winston Churchill.
It was a gesture to show their support for the United States in one of its darkest hours.
The bust sat prominently in the Oval Office for the balance of President Bush’s tenure there,
and once President Obama took office, the British offered him the opportunity to keep it for the length of his term.
His response was cold and most likely sent tremors through the British diplomatic community."
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"Diplomatically this is a faux pax that only an unseasoned politician could make.
The British have stood by our side as strong allies for decades and we need to maintain that relationship,
especially in a world that is becoming increasingly dangerous (See Is Nuclear Weakness on the Horizon)
If he did not want to look at it in the oval office he could have displayed it elsewhere in the White House
and not slapped the British in the face in such a blatant disregard of political etiquette."

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" I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle."
Winston Churchill

[donna]

I think it was intentional and signified Obama laying America at the feet of the King who rules over Mecca.

[668 - Neighbor of the Beast]

These people are living proof that the education of our children about the history and founding philosophies of this great nation is sadly lacking if it exists at all.

Outstandingly bad in this category, public education.

"If you think you can't afford it, wait 'til it's free." Does that ring a bell?

And do you think you can't afford it now? What if you had been an American in 1776? Would you have sympathized secretly and said to the patriots, "I would love to be a part of your movement but I just can't afford it. I have to support my family, and the King pays my salary which feeds my family." Would you have said, "I'm so sorry, but if I joined you I'd be fired and unable to pay my debts."

Your children are your future, they are America's future. You can't afford to blight their minds and spirits. Get them out of there, even if you have to sprain your spending arm.

[Carlucci]

Bookmarking!

[Windflier]

I’m referring to the evidence that people have.

What evidence that does exist about Obama's provenance creates grave concern and doubt about his qualification to legally hold the Presidency.

Only those who willfully refuse to know the truth about this are resistant to compelling Obama to release his basic records.

This situation is unprecedented for our country. The fact that everyone in America isn't clamoring to get to the truth of it, is astonishing and frightening on a lot of levels.

[kalee]

Good vent, so vanity is forgiven. :)

[Gritty]

You raise a number of issues. I’ll just speak to one. He is listed in written school records as Barry Soetoro, a Muslim and an Indonesian citizen. At that time, Indonesians were not allowed to hold dual citizenship. And no one but Indonesian citizens were allowed to attend those schools.

If neither Obama nor his parents re-applied for American citizenship after that, then he is not an American citizen at all, let alone natural born. He is an Indonesian citizen. He could have applied to be reinstated, but I don’t believe that he did.

There are, of course, many other problems surrounding this issue. We don’t know for sure without records and written evidence, but the probabilities are pretty high that he is not an American AT ALL.

Your post bears repeating in it's entirety.

[SatinDoll]

Thank you for posting this information. It has been around since April 2008, but few are aware or its existence.

In an aside, Stanley Anne Dunham Obama Soetoro, the President’s mother, repudiated her U.S. citizenship and became an Indonesian citizen when she married Lolo Soetoro in the early 1960’s.

[muawiyah]

Again, US law does not respect what the parents may have claimed when it comes to citizenship in Indonesia.

The child is judged on his or her own merits, according to American law, and not until he or she is 18.

Everyone involved in the discussion knows this. What we want to see is the so-called "long form" of his birth certificate.

[muawiyah]

Not really. The courts have ruled repeatedly that you have to do that repudiating before an appropriate American body ~ a court, an immigration judge, etc.

It's been a very long time since an American woman lost her citizenship simply by marrying a foreigner.

[SatinDoll]

Yes, really, Mooie!

She had an Indonesian passport for decades. Enough said.

Now, go brown-nose on Obama supporter sites. It is where you rightfully belong.

[muawiyah]

No doubt the individual who decided to send the bust back to UK was simply another ignorant Chicago politician.

I'm surprised someone in Obama's entourage didn't try to steal it. Must have had a built-in alarm system or something.

[muawiyah]

You are such a clod ~ right up there with the Obamistas who have their guy running around bowing to foreign potentates, etc.

Good grief~American law is American law. We run our citizenship operations, not the pukes in Indonesia.

We bow to no one ~ time both you and Obama figured that part out.

[Marysecretary]

There’s a big difference between God (with a capital G) and a god. Allah is a god, not God.

[Lucky9teen]

To the bow and everything else the Obama administration is doing since 11/4/08, I say this:

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to affect their Safety and Happiness…

It's comin'....