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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
Can you name anyone who is in favor of cutting off benefits and sending all the illegals home? There are NO candidates who will come out and say this. ... Given that 2/3rds of Americans want illegals gone the issue will have to be addressed in some way.

So, there is no candidate that will support what 2/3 of Americans want? Why do you think that is true?

Here is my guess. Because instead of rejecting them out of hand and withdrawing support, and vocally advising them of such, people wring their hands and start campaigning on "it's the best we can do."

Until this white flag mentality is abandoned, we'll never have a candidate.

81 posted on 04/09/2009 12:09:33 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
Why do you think that is true?

Because I've never heard anyone outside Tancredo take a hardline position. Who do you think the next cycle's candidate is? I don't know of anybody.

85 posted on 04/09/2009 12:15:45 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (The government turns every contingency into an excuse for enhancing power in itself. - John Adams)
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To: calcowgirl
So, there is no candidate that will support what 2/3 of Americans want? Why do you think that is true?

There have been some thoughtful articles recently on other websites pondering the financial meltdown of the last year, which has exposed in ways too obvious to miss, the intellectual and practical policy ascendancy of a very tiny minority of plutocrats in the financial industry over the thinking of both political parties.

That's the "it all comes together at the top" or "bipod" thesis David Horowitz has been writing and speaking about for at least a dozen years now.

It completely explains some curious deformations of e.g. both Bush Administrations' (41 and 43) policy priorities w/ respect to e.g. defense and immigration, tax cuts versus deficit reduction, and negation of Bill Clinton's spendthrift social-liberal impulses that put Slick on a diet of "mini-initiatives" and constant headline-grabbing that were the hallmark of his administration.

Slick was shocked and offended when his economic and Treasury advisors (who all came from the financial industry, esp. Bob Rubin, Clinton's second SecTreas) told him he had to keep the bond market happy, even if it meant giving up the lavish social spending increases that are the lifeblood of liberalism.

90 posted on 04/09/2009 2:49:15 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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