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The Gay Marriage Fantasy
Real Clear Politics ^ | April 8, 2009 | William Murchison

Posted on 04/08/2009 11:09:33 AM PDT by re_tail20

You really can't have "gay marriage," you know, irrespective of what a court or a legislature may say.

You can have something some people call gay marriage because to them the idea sounds worthy and necessary, but to say a thing is other than it is, is to stand reality on its head, hoping to shake out its pockets.

Such is the supposed effect of the Iowa Supreme Court's declaration last week that gays and heterosexuals enjoy equal rights to marital bliss. Nope. They don't and won't, even if liberal Vermont follows Iowa's lead.

The human race -- sorry ladies, sorry gents -- understands marriage as a compact reinforcing social survival and projection. It has always been so. It will always be so, even if every state Supreme Court pretended to declare that what isn't suddenly is. Life does not work in this manner.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: gay; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; murchison
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1 posted on 04/08/2009 11:09:33 AM PDT by re_tail20
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To: re_tail20

I just read that Rick Warren has apologized for supporting Prop. 8.

Pathetic.


2 posted on 04/08/2009 11:11:57 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: re_tail20

I asked a gay man I work with what he thought of “gay marriage”. He said it was ridiculous and that marriage was for men and women to have and raise children. If you want to leave your partner something after you die he said, put it in a will.


3 posted on 04/08/2009 11:13:41 AM PDT by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on the rights of animals would do so on behalf the unborn)
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To: re_tail20

The way liberals on MSNBC put it is “They were born with those feelings(desires), so having those feelings(desires), is like race, so it is a civil right. Plus you are denying their right to happiness”

A Civil right based on sexual desire(cannot be tested and is never defined) . Here in libby Maryland sexual orientation is the same as race as far as employment or housing.


4 posted on 04/08/2009 11:14:07 AM PDT by sickoflibs (RNC Party Theme : "We may be socialists, but they are Marxists!")
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To: re_tail20

Gay marriage is really about eliminating Christianity.

Where gay marriage is legal, very few gays bother with it. They already have partner benefits.


5 posted on 04/08/2009 11:15:35 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: ConservativeDude
Warren claims to have never supported Prop 8.

Pastor Rick Warren: "I Am Not An Anti-Gay Marriage Activist" (Video)

So I guess this is a figment of our imaginations.

Rick Warren Endorses Prop 8 Youtube

6 posted on 04/08/2009 11:16:38 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
Gay marriage is really about eliminating Christianity.

Yes. Advocates of "gay marriage" couldn't care less whether or not homosexuals are happy. Their objective is the destruction of bourgeois civilization and its replacement with a collectivist utopia in which they will call all the shots.

The absurdity of the whole concept of men marrying men and women marrying women is simply demonstrated by asking one question: How do you determine that the "marriage" has been consummated?

7 posted on 04/08/2009 11:20:59 AM PDT by Argus (We've gone downtown to Clown Town, and that's where we'll be living from now on..)
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To: Argus

In one case, “dung” where it’s typically not found.


8 posted on 04/08/2009 11:22:53 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
Gay marriage is really about eliminating Christianity.

You hit the nail on the head.

9 posted on 04/08/2009 11:24:22 AM PDT by Calusa (The pump won't prime 'cause the vandals took the handle. Quoth Bob Dylan.)
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To: ConservativeDude

He did??? Yikes!

Another Apostate birthed in these Last Days.....


10 posted on 04/08/2009 11:24:44 AM PDT by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: re_tail20

It doesn’t really matter what the government/courts say, does it? Why should government be involved in marriage period? Property issues can be decided just like they are for all non-married people. Even children and marriage are not necessarily connected. I think you should be married to have kids, but go get married in a church, temple, las vegas or whatever. But to have the gov’t involved?? Puhleeze. We don’t need their blessing. Taking it out of government hands would end this ridiculous side-show of gay marriage battles. Churches could decide for themselves, as some already have, if they want to marry gay people.


11 posted on 04/08/2009 11:25:52 AM PDT by floridavoter2
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To: Argus
How do you determine that the "marriage" has been consummated?

Most gays will give you pics. I'd drop that question.

12 posted on 04/08/2009 11:28:58 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To all— I put forth the suggestion to stop using the term ‘gay ‘, as in gay marriage. Gay by historical definition means merry, bright, lively. It is yet another word that has been hijacked to hide the true nature of a degenerate behavior. It should be called what it is - homosexual marriage.


13 posted on 04/08/2009 11:59:57 AM PDT by lost in the snow
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To: lost in the snow
It should be called what it is - homosexual marriage.

I disagree. It should be called queer, not homosexual. Add marriage if you insist, that doesn't make it marriage.

Homosexual is too clinical a word with far too many syllables to use in ordinary conversation.

14 posted on 04/08/2009 12:23:55 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: floridavoter2

I have often wondered about government involvement in marriage and how that came about. Of course we need some way to enforce social prohibitions against incest and the like, but beyond that I think a required license is a bit over the top. A relationship is, in my opinion, ordained by God and blessed by Him. Who the heck cares what the government thinks about it.


15 posted on 04/08/2009 2:12:19 PM PDT by rightwingfop
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To: LottieDah
I asked a gay man I work with what he thought of “gay marriage”. He said it was ridiculous and that marriage was for men and women to have and raise children.

Same here with the homosexuals I know. I don't know where these militants live, but Texas at least has civilized homosexuals.

16 posted on 04/08/2009 5:33:57 PM PDT by fwdude ("...a 'centrist' ... has few principles - and those are negotiable." - Don Feder)
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My co worker and I live and work in New York City and he is isn’t militant. He is just a common sense type of guy.


17 posted on 04/08/2009 5:42:12 PM PDT by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on the rights of animals would do so on behalf the unborn)
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My co worker and I live and work in New York City and he is isn’t militant. He is just a common sense type of guy.

No offense, I just look at the homo-radicals in the news and wonder where they come from. You're not incorrect in thinking that many homosexuals are appalled by the militants, and try to distance themselves from association.

18 posted on 04/08/2009 5:56:39 PM PDT by fwdude ("...a 'centrist' ... has few principles - and those are negotiable." - Don Feder)
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[i]My co worker and I live and work in New York City and he is isn’t militant. He is just a common sense type of guy.[/i]

I’ll bet he realizes that anyone can shack up with anyone if they want due to their inalienable rights and that you don’t need an act of congress of judges to let people do what they want to make themselves happy.

He more than likely knows that rights are inalienable and laws should only be there to limit what the government can do to curtail those rights.


19 posted on 04/09/2009 3:43:06 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG
laws should only be there to limit what the government can do to curtail those rights.

Like the "right" of teaching children that perversion is normal?

The issue isn't about "Consenting adults" or "bedroom privacy" or "individual or civil rights" like the advocates of homosexual marriage dishonestly and vehemently insist.

"Gay Marriage" is the "Trojan horse" method of attack by homosexual activists and advocacy groups in the effort to legitimize the perverse behavior of homosexuality in the courts and by legislation. Should homosexual marriage be legalized then by judicial fiat homosexuality would be legitimized across the board. This means that school children by law would be taught that homosexual behavior is a "safe" and "normal" alternative "sexual lifestyle" choice and by law parents will have no grounds to object (regardless of the negative spiritual, moral, psychological, biological, and medical consequences) IOW unconditional approval and acceptance, kowtow or else be hauled in front of a "diversity" tribunal and be charged and arrested for hate crimes and sent to the reeducation gulag. No thanks.

Perversion is not a "civil right" Our founders never intended for Freedom to be the trophy of immorality, depravity just to satisfy a small minority of morally insane perverted degenerates.

20 posted on 04/09/2009 10:10:40 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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