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Officials: Somali pirates seize 21 U.S. sailors
MSNBC ^ | 7 Apr 09 | NBC News

Posted on 04/08/2009 4:04:52 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776

NAIROBI, Kenya - Somali pirates have hijacked a cargo ship with 21 Americans onboard, officials said on Wednesday.

The 17,000-ton Maersk Alabama was taken Wednesday, according to the Kenya-based diplomat who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

A spokeswoman for the U.S. Fifth Fleet confirmed that a Danish-owned, U.S.-operated container ship carrying 21 Americans "came under attack" about 240 nautical miles southeast of Ayel, Somalia. She said the crew had radioed for help but the closest naval ship was about 300 nautical miles away at the time. The official was unable to confirm the name of the vessel.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: maersk; maerskalabama; maritime; piracy; pirates; somali; somalia; somalipirates; somalis; usnavy
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To: rightwingextremist1776

There are really only a few options here:

1. Convoy all merchant shipping with naval escort

2. Naval quarantine of the entire Somali coast

3. Destroy every ship and boat along the coastline of Somalia

4. All of the above

Of course, 0bama’s regime will go for option 5: sacks of increasingly worthless American “stimulus” dollars as tribute to bribe them off. So much for “millions for defense but not a penny for tribute.”


61 posted on 04/08/2009 5:59:11 AM PDT by henkster (0bamanomics: "I'll loan you all the money you need to get out of debt.")
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To: Edgerunner

Especially the crew.


62 posted on 04/08/2009 5:59:53 AM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: rightwingextremist1776

This all warrants a comprehensive layered action plan. However, our president remains the bigger questionable problem.


63 posted on 04/08/2009 6:02:02 AM PDT by Broker (Pray in the spirit of ELIJAH!!!)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Maybe the idiots who voted for him will realize that the world hates them as much as they hate all Americans, and they'll vote for someone who doesn't hate America next time.

The majority of the American sheep are Leftists. This is what they want. They hate America too.

64 posted on 04/08/2009 6:03:41 AM PDT by Old Sarge ("Remember, remember, the Fourth of November, the Socialist treason and plot...")
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To: joe fonebone

$Millions for ransom, not one cent for defense.


65 posted on 04/08/2009 6:14:29 AM PDT by magslinger (I talk to myself but sometimes I like a third opinion.)
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To: TomGuy
OMG !!! I didnt realize we had also stolen water from the world...better get a 'sorry' stamp made, the reparations to the world will happen much quicker....

better yet, im sures Staples has a 'sorry button'...

66 posted on 04/08/2009 6:18:33 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 ("JesusChrist 08"...Trust in the Lord......=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: henkster
3. Destroy every ship and boat along the coastline of Somalia

I think that would do the trick.

It seems to me that if the UN, or whomever, is going to make international law barring merchant vessels from arming themselves, then that law making body has taken on an obligation to ensure the safety of these vessels. Otherwise, they are just making laws to benefit the pirates.

67 posted on 04/08/2009 6:18:35 AM PDT by Perchant
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To: Perchant

“Wasn’t America’s first war against Muslim pirates?”

That was exactly my first reaction to this! And isn’t that where the line comes from in the USMC hymn: “. . .to the shores of Tripoli, we have fought our country’s battles. . . .”? The wikipedia article on the First Barbary War of the late 1700’s is like reading today’s headline.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War

“Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.” (Seneca??)


68 posted on 04/08/2009 6:23:23 AM PDT by JoyjoyfromNJ (Psalm 121)
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To: Logic n' Reason

They may be military. Sailors are sometimes assigned to private vessels.


69 posted on 04/08/2009 6:23:49 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: rightwingextremist1776

This is a political gift to Obama. He can act tough on low hanging fruit — there’s nobody in the world who will complain when you attack pirates.


70 posted on 04/08/2009 6:24:28 AM PDT by Uncledave
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To: CindyDawg

A MESF security team will be on one of these ships while they’re transporting US military cargo. Sounds like it wasn’t at this time, so they didn’t have a team.


71 posted on 04/08/2009 6:26:09 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: rightwingextremist1776

An act of war .. but in Obama’s eyes he can see why they did this and he will work with them I am sure ......
probably apologize for them being there .. being a burden to hold etc.


72 posted on 04/08/2009 6:26:47 AM PDT by Munz ("We're all here for you OK? It's a circle of love" Rham Emanuel)
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To: Uncledave

No, he’s really in a bind, actually.

1) Any attack on the pirates risks getting hostages killed during the attack.

2) The pirates never kill their hostages, so the easy thing to do is pay the ransom - however he’ll be attacked with the “not one cent for tribute” quotation, etc.

The way out is that the ship is Danish-owned. If Maersk pays the ransom then WE’RE not paying the ransom, per se. That’s probably what will happen.


73 posted on 04/08/2009 6:28:20 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Perchant
It seems to me that if the UN, or whomever, is going to make international law barring merchant vessels from arming themselves, then that law making body has taken on an obligation to ensure the safety of these vessels. Otherwise, they are just making laws to benefit the pirates.

Responsibility and authority going together hand in hand is a Conservative principle. Leftists, OTOH just want to be in charge. When things go wrong, it isn't their fault.

That is assuming that piracy is the disarming of merchant vessels going wrong rather than the intent of the UN. I refuse to bet either way.

74 posted on 04/08/2009 6:29:21 AM PDT by magslinger (I talk to myself but sometimes I like a third opinion.)
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To: Munz

I carry a gun when I have to go to the wrong side of town. I find it umbelievable there are still ships cruising through the pirates areas without defense.

Even us lowly Freepers can think up ingenious and painfull ways to fend off pirates.


75 posted on 04/08/2009 6:30:55 AM PDT by umgud (I'm really happy I wasn't aborted)
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To: bill1952; Travis McGee; Squantos

I used to own freighters. Several, traded worldwide but mostly Western Hemisphere and North Atlantic-Med

Nearly all my captains had pistols or a pump shotgun or lever action rifle to ward off mutiny or a crazy crewman etc.

Typically ship’s agrent would arrange any considerations for the weapon(s) in sync with customs particular to that area.

Some would quarantine, some did nothing.

No arsenal though capable of dealing with these pirates to be sure.

Pacific coast of Colombia was our worst “pirate” spot ...that and Guyana when anchored outside the bar. One had to be vigilent.

One of my captains had been Somoza’s fleet captian...one tough somebeach...he tossed a guy leaving the canal zone once with only his papers, some cash and a life preserver about a mile offshore to save launch fees. ABS had pulled a knife on him.

Hugo Zepeda....tuff mofo

When he told me...I said you did (”what?)...he just grinned.


76 posted on 04/08/2009 6:32:21 AM PDT by wardaddy (America, Ship of Fools)
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To: Strategerist

That may be but I don’t want this turning into “17” (21)not worth risking a “war” over.


77 posted on 04/08/2009 6:34:08 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Vroomfondel; SC Swamp Fox; Fred Hayek; NY Attitude; P3_Acoustic; Bean Counter; investigateworld; ...
SONOBUOY PING!

A little NAVAIR would go a long way in dampening the spirits (as well as the dismembered corpses) of the pirates. IMHO.

Click on pic for past Navair pings.

Post or FReepmail me if you wish to be enlisted in or discharged from the Navair Pinglist.
The only requirement for inclusion in the Navair Pinglist is an interest in Naval Aviation.
This is a medium to low volume pinglist.

78 posted on 04/08/2009 6:35:16 AM PDT by magslinger (I talk to myself but sometimes I like a third opinion.)
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To: Strategerist

Actually what will happen is:

1) Maersk in Denmark will pay the ransom

2) We’ll get the ship and hostages back

3) Tomahawks will be lobbed into assorted places in Somalia.

Remember the above - I’m pretty confident this is how it plays out.


79 posted on 04/08/2009 6:37:42 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: JoyjoyfromNJ
That seems like a pretty decent wiki entry. Jefferson had the wisdom to realize that paying ransom would only encourage more piracy. I guess we'll find out if the Party of Jefferson has inherited any of its founder's wisdom.
80 posted on 04/08/2009 6:37:48 AM PDT by Perchant
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