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Chinese develop anti aircraft carrier ballistic missile.
U. S. Naval Institute ^ | 3-31-2009 | U. S. Naval Institute

Posted on 04/06/2009 7:58:46 AM PDT by freedomwarrior998

With tensions already rising due to the Chinese navy becoming more aggressive in asserting its territorial claims in the South China Sea, the U.S. Navy seems to have yet another reason to be deeply concerned.

After years of conjecture, details have begun to emerge of a "kill weapon" developed by the Chinese to target and destroy U.S. aircraft carriers.

First posted on a Chinese blog viewed as credible by military analysts and then translated by the naval affairs blog Information Dissemination, a recent report provides a description of an anti-ship ballistic missile (ASBM) that can strike carriers and other U.S. vessels at a range of 2000km.

The range of the modified Dong Feng 21 missile is significant in that it covers the areas that are likely hot zones for future confrontations between U.S. and Chinese surface forces.

The size of the missile enables it to carry a warhead big enough to inflict significant damage on a large vessel, providing the Chinese the capability of destroying a U.S. supercarrier in one strike.

Because the missile employs a complex guidance system, low radar signature and a maneuverability that makes its flight path unpredictable, the odds that it can evade tracking systems to reach its target are increased. It is estimated that the missile can travel at mach 10 and reach its maximum range of 2000km in less than 12 minutes.

Supporting the missile is a network of satellites, radar and unmanned aerial vehicles that can locate U.S. ships and then guide the weapon, enabling it to hit moving targets.

ASBM is said to be a modified DF-21 The ASBM is said to be a modified DF-21

While the ASBM has been a topic of discussion within national defense circles for quite some time, the fact that information is now coming from Chinese sources indicates that the weapon system is operational. The Chinese rarely mention weapons projects unless they are well beyond the test stages.

If operational as is believed, the system marks the first time a ballistic missile has been successfully developed to attack vessels at sea. Ships currently have no defense against a ballistic missile attack.

Along with the Chinese naval build-up, U.S. Navy officials appear to view the development of the anti-ship ballistic missile as a tangible threat.

After spending the last decade placing an emphasis on building a fleet that could operate in shallow waters near coastlines, the U.S. Navy seems to have quickly changed its strategy over the past several months to focus on improving the capabilities of its deep sea fleet and developing anti-ballistic defenses.

As analyst Raymond Pritchett notes in a post on the U.S. Naval Institute blog:

"The Navy's reaction is telling, because it essentially equals a radical change in direction based on information that has created a panic inside the bubble. For a major military service to panic due to a new weapon system, clearly a mission kill weapon system, either suggests the threat is legitimate or the leadership of the Navy is legitimately unqualified. There really aren't many gray spaces in evaluating the reaction by the Navy…the data tends to support the legitimacy of the threat."

In recent years, China has been expanding its navy to presumably better exert itself in disputed maritime regions. A recent show of strength in early March led to a confrontation with an unarmed U.S. ship in international waters.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aircraftcarrier; armsbuildup; china; chinesemilitary; missle; navy; redchina; usnavy
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To: WVKayaker

Thank You wvkayaker!!! (ps I love kayaking!!)


41 posted on 04/06/2009 10:23:49 AM PDT by dhm914
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To: WVKayaker

I have been down the Gulley river a few times but it’s been 25+ years. W.Va has some really nice recreation spots. The wife and I did some serious hikes near Blackwater Falls last year.


42 posted on 04/06/2009 10:42:45 AM PDT by tc45a
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To: tc45a

west coaster here, like the waves on the coast (yes Mavricks!!) and the bays and laggons.

funny how there is now dead silance now from the name callers. maybe the site monitors took care of them.


43 posted on 04/06/2009 10:46:54 AM PDT by dhm914
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To: dhm914
I refer you back to my post #35.
44 posted on 04/06/2009 11:19:52 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Typical rube liberal reply . thank you virgina ridge runner.
You really ought to be banned. no arguing with you. you are just full of insults, and no logical discussion.

However with your pre-occupation with the saying "kiss off" I think you are refering to your dear leader, Premier Kissoff!!! (with apologies to Dr. Strangelove) I suppose the likes of you will tell the US Navy to "kiss off" when they request more missle defense systems.

45 posted on 04/06/2009 11:28:27 AM PDT by dhm914
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Typical rude liberal reply . thank you virgina ridge runner.
You really ought to be banned. no arguing with you. you are just full of insults, and no logical discussion.

However with your pre-occupation with the saying "kiss off" I think you are refering to your dear leader, Premier Kissoff!!! (with apologies to Dr. Strangelove) I suppose the likes of you will tell the US Navy to "kiss off" when they request more missle defense systems.

46 posted on 04/06/2009 11:28:54 AM PDT by dhm914
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To: WVKayaker
China’s Guerrilla War for the Web
47 posted on 04/06/2009 11:29:01 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: dhm914

ha ha ha... you actually think our ACCs are ‘soft targets’.. ever cross your mind that we let the ChiComs believe this missile could effect us, giving them a false sense of power? Remember the old rule, technology in the military is generally two decades ahead of where you think it is. Don’t think for a moment there aren’t defense contingencies built up for this.


48 posted on 04/06/2009 11:34:22 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: dhm914
You really ought to be banned.

That will be for us to decide. If 'Kiss Off' offends you, you may want to grow a thicker skin. I would suggest starting here to boost your credibility and thicken your skin.

49 posted on 04/06/2009 11:36:45 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

dont mind it so much if the poster could articulate some thought into teh post other than name calling. maybe it is too much to ask for a logical discussion. Three posters with name calling, nothing more, no discussion, and they reported my post as “abuse” which I can no figure how in anyway that is abuse. you have any comments to them on their false report of abuse generated in reply to my first post???

I still dont knwo whyu they reported my post as abuse. do you agree with them?? (I guess all they stated was name calling, do you agree with that???)

I was hoping for a logical discussion, not name calling and false abuse charges. You need to address there behavior. They seem to be anti-US Navy and very Pro chicom.

you going to address their abuse charges of me publically, or you on their side also???


50 posted on 04/06/2009 11:44:46 AM PDT by dhm914
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To: mnehring

maybe true, but did it ever cross your mind that the chinese are holding back there real more powerful weapons also????

we were caught with our pants down in 1941. I dont want that to happen again. back then we did not think japan was a big worry, I am afraid we got plenty of folks that think china is no threat.

we never should have allowed free trade with them commies. they may yet hang us with the rope we sell them


51 posted on 04/06/2009 11:47:45 AM PDT by dhm914
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To: dhm914

I believe all sides are far ahead what the they let the media run with. IF the ChiComs had this, they wouldn’t need to leak this to the media via originally some propaganda blogs. It takes out the element of surprise and allows your opponent to plan for such an attack.

HOWEVER, if they don’t have it, but claim they do, they can use the leak as a test to see how our new CIC flinches.

Study their playbook, The Art of War.

“If you are strong, appear weak. If you are weak, appear strong.”


52 posted on 04/06/2009 11:50:55 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: freedomwarrior998

Just have the US put out a nice warning. You launch a ballistic missile at a carrier or strategic asset, we assume it’s a nuke and respond accordingly


53 posted on 04/06/2009 11:52:41 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (01-20-2009 : The end of the PAX AMERICANA.)
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To: dhm914

None of them reported your posts. You are the only one who is clicking the abuse button around here. If you are not a troll, as we have so many newbie distributors sign up to be, then prove yourself, don’t whine. Welcome to the Internet.


54 posted on 04/06/2009 11:53:19 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

You might find more donatiosn coming in, if you did away with teh name callers that cant add any thing logical to the discussion. How about a repermanding them for the name calling and anti-navy talk?
fine way to treat a relitivly new poster, who is a life long conservative. these three posters some how dont like that fact that I posted that we need the new missle defenses for our navy.

yeah go ahead, let them shout out name calling, let them post with no logical discussion on the issue. If that contiunes, you might find your donations a bit low from conservatives. I am here for true logical debate, and discuss conservative issues, I did not come here for unthoughtful name calling by the anti-American Pro commie chinese crowd.

I have enjoyed free republic so much, but this name calling by pro-communist chinese is not proper here.


55 posted on 04/06/2009 11:55:51 AM PDT by dhm914
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To: mnehring
“If you are strong, appear weak. If you are weak, appear strong.”

Which may indicate that they are releasing the equivalent of vaporware for military systems.

56 posted on 04/06/2009 11:56:17 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (01-20-2009 : The end of the PAX AMERICANA.)
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To: Admin Moderator

well post #26 by virgina ridge runner was cc’d to the administrator. I assume that is how it was reported to the you.
I no longer see the post by wtc911, so I assume it was removed by the administration, thank you.

maybe cc’ing the administrator is technically not an abuse report, but judgeing by what was written, that seems to be the intent.

frankly I ws think the chicoms had highjacked this site, with all the anti-pro strong defense talk by these posters, who could only manage one liner insults, rather than a logical discussion.

believe me, when soemone starts in with the name calling of a poster that is posting a Pro_Strong American defence posting, I and cc’s the administrator, i kind of wonder who is running the place, the liberals or the conservatives.

shocking that on a conservative site we have such anti-strong defense folks.


57 posted on 04/06/2009 12:07:19 PM PDT by dhm914
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
I am much more concerned with the immediate ramifications of the actions of Zero and his Lieutenants. It will remain to be seen if anyone here is a troll. But, I suggest you read a newbies comments since coming on, and then tell me he is here promoting China.

I don't fear the enemy in my sights! It's the poseur in the White House, with all the ACORN goons and Socialists Washington Pols, who are most to be feared. China will be just as strong next year. I doubt we will be...


58 posted on 04/06/2009 12:31:01 PM PDT by WVKayaker ( Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. - Arthur C. Clarke)
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To: freedomwarrior998
Thank you Richard Nixon, Henry Kissinger, and so many other globalist RINOs.
59 posted on 04/06/2009 12:46:43 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (From Messiah to Massah in one swell foop.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
but can someone tell me how a (conventionally-armed) ballistic missile could possibly hit a rapidly moving aircraft carrier?

Machine vision.

60 posted on 04/06/2009 12:47:46 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (From Messiah to Massah in one swell foop.)
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