[Always Right]

With freedom comes responsibility.

So you take away the rights of the responsible because of the irresponsible? That is same logic the gun grabbers are using.

[Skid Marx]

You punish the irresponsible. The gun grabbers you speak of have a tendency to present offenders as victims, and are loath to hold them to account. To them guilt is collective, if it exists at all. Just like this woman's excuse: 'Everybody's dog runs loose around here'. Guns don't run loose. They're just pieces of metal. But if 'Everybody shoots at signs out of car windows around here', is used as an exculpation for someones death, then I would see a freedom that's being abused, to the hazard of the responsible citizen; his person and his freedom.

[brytlea]

Amen...