Posted on 04/04/2009 7:39:33 PM PDT by gaijin
I know the first two and not sure of eric. Is anyone sure of eric?
Yes, now that you mention it, I do remember that. but the LA Times says that was just "a rumor", spread by conservative wing nuts.
The article doesn't exist at the original source, and one link that several blogs point to, (http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200303/kt2003030417272311970.htm> is tagged as a malicious site, so I'm not going there.
here
NK Missile Warhead Found in Alaska
By Ryu Jin
Staff Reporter
The warhead of a long-range missile test-fired by North Korea was found in the U.S. state of Alaska, a report to the National Assembly revealed yesterday.
``According to a U.S. document, the last piece of a missile warhead fired by North Korea was found in Alaska, former Japanese foreign minister Taro Nakayama was quoted as saying in the report. ``Washington, as well as Tokyo, has so far underrated Pyongyang's missile capabilities.
The report was the culmination of monthlong activities of the Assembly's overseas delegation to five countries over the North Korean nuclear crisis. The Assembly dispatched groups of lawmakers to the United States, Japan, China, Russia and European Union last month to collect information and opinions on the international issue.
Couldn't find the story on the "Korea Times". But Ryu Jin is one of their reporters. They of course are on this story. Maybe we can recover the second and/or third stages and determine if it really was a communications satellite, or a dummy warhead...or I suppose a live warhead is distant possibility.
Some of that is likely pretty well shielded or otherwise protected, by it's own nature and by the fact that it's designed to be operated in proximity to the others. An MRI is a pretty hefty source of electromagnetic pulses itself.
But of course they'd still need lights for the operating rooms and such. I'd also be worried about the back up generator's control system surviving an EMP, and the mobile sonogram systems would likely be toast too.
I would hope that under that scenario the poser would be dethroned either by the people or a military coup backed by the people.
I am
You may not be able to find it because the story was from 2003.
Would this be the entire eric or half an eric?
http://www.adn.com/front/story/2719687p-2767626c.html
Newspaper says N. Korean missile pieces found in Alaska
Officials puzzled, say closest one splashed down hundreds of miles off coast
By Tom Kizzia
Anchorage Daily News
Published: March 5, 2003
Last Modified: March 6, 2003 at 02:58 AM
An unsubstantiated report from South Korea on Tuesday, claiming fragments of a North Korea missile warhead had been found in Alaska, left state, federal and military officials here puzzled.
The Korea Times, a major Korean newspaper, said a delegation from South Korea's National Assembly had released a new report on the region's current showdown over nuclear weapons and missiles. The newspaper quoted a former Japanese foreign minister's words in the report that "the last piece of a missile warhead fired by North Korea was found in Alaska."
The Japanese official, Tara Nakayama, cited a U.S. document as his source.
Sen. Ted Stevens, R-Alaska, said Tuesday he's never heard of such a thing. Neither had Chris Nelson, the state's missile defense coordinator.
Air Force Lt. Col. Rick Lehner, spokesman for the Missile Defense Agency, said the report probably referred to a three-stage missile tested by North Korea in 1998.
"It splashed in the water hundreds of miles from Alaska," Lehner said. "I've never heard of any piece of a missile landing in Alaska from that test or any other test."
The South Korea legislators used the claim to note that Washington and Tokyo have "underrated Pyongyang's missile capabilities," according to the newspaper. Given the Bush administration's political efforts to promote national missile defense, it's hard to imagine why the United States would have kept such a discovery secret.
U.S. and Korean military analysts have said North Korea is probably developing a two-stage missile with a range of 3,700 miles, making it able to reach Anchorage. A three-stage version of that missile might be able to reach the West Coast of the United States, defense officials have testified.
These ranges remain hypothetical, though North Korea has recently said it may restart its missile testing program. North Korea agreed to a test moratorium with the Clinton administration.
The August 1998 test of a three-stage Taepodong-1 missile was an unsuccessful effort to launch a satellite, according to U.S. intelligence officials. The first stage splashed down in the Sea of Japan, while the second stage flew over Japan and landed in the Pacific, U.S. officials said. The fate of the satellite stage has not been reported.
"The third stage malfunctioned, and it didn't go as far as it could've gone," Lehner said.
Thanks again for your efforts on this. I don't have time to participate in the discussion today, but I do appreciate having a source of information I can trust... /g
“NK Missile Warhead Found in Alaska
By Ryu Jin
Staff Reporter
The warhead of a long-range missile test-fired by North Korea was found in the U.S. state of Alaska, a report to the National Assembly revealed yesterday.
``According to a U.S. document, the last piece of a missile warhead fired by North Korea was found in Alaska, former Japanese foreign minister Taro Nakayama was quoted as saying in the report. ``Washington, as well as Tokyo, has so far underrated Pyongyang’s missile capabilities.”
I remember that story and event specifically. I also remember being told I was wrong here on FR by certain people.
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That is all theoretical. No one knows for sure what will really happen. No one knows how sophisticated the faraday cage needs to be to block whatever emp pulse will result. Maybe the steel body of a car will be sufficient. Maybe a metal clad building will be sufficient...such as a tin roof and metal siding.
On Firefox, you can download an extension called “rikaichan.” When you download the main app along with the Japanese-English dictionary (at rikaichan.mozdev.org), it allows you to mouse over kanji (Chinese characters used in Japanese) and get a high-level view of what’s being discussed. In the link, the North Korean story is the prominent one in the left column. The link is to NHK, the Japanese equivalent of PBS (without the crazy hopey changey crowd).
Of course, 0bama, the idiot, complains to the Security Council when Russia and China are clearly gleeful. (Might as well have sent Hillary with a strongly worded letter...) Japan sees that kind of weakness and is going to ramp up its own missile defense even more. Maybe he can talk them all into peace, or maybe community-organize the burakumin or North Koreans living in Japan.
I remember that there was a reregistration, but am surprised I missed committing to it by four months, that is, that it started in 12/97 while my date shows 4/98 For a while we didn't have access to seeing our start date, IIRC.
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Thanks for making me aware of the FReeper memorial wall. It was very moving to see, especially since I know a few of the names.
Eric the half-a-bee?
That is correct. Half a bee, philosophically, Must, ipso facto, half not be.
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