Are You Hoarding Ammo?

humanevents.com ^ | 03/31/2009 | Ross Kaminsky

[stevie_d_64]

Why would bootlegging be immoral???

IIRC, Prohibition created a blackmarket and the distribution of said items, and the fact that it was repealed proved that you cannot effectively regulate or control social behavior...

Not that I condone illegal acts...But think about it...Something that is legal one day, and made illegal the next, just because...Doesn’t compute with some people...Think about those firearms you own??? Right???

Imagine the bootlegging (blackmarketing) that is going to be created if they make posessing those things illegal???

But somehow the government has not learned the lesson completely enough to keep them off our backs...Or maybe they know, but still like to “control” things...

Just yanking your chain Marine...;-)

[ArrogantBustard]

Eric Frank Russell's science-fiction classic Wasp is as relevant to human society today as it was in the 1950s when he wrote it.

[ArrogantBustard]

Please be careful. The .380 cartridge was sometimes also called "9mm Kurz" (Kurz = short). The case is a few thousandths shorter than the 9mm Luger (AKA 9mm Parabellum, 9x19mm ...) and (if I recall my reloading manuals correctly) is designed for significantly lower pressure. Bullets are .355" diameter (again, IIRMRLMC), but lighter: 80-90gr for .380, rather than 90-147gr for 9mm Luger.

Bottom line: the ammunition commonly sold in the USA as "9mm" is NOT the same as .380, even if the .380 pistol has "9mm" stamped on the chamber. It won't fit in your pistol (I hope) and if it did, firing it would be a bad idea.

If you already know this, please accept my apologies for repetitiveness.

[ravingnutter]

You are correct that 9mm bullets will not work in a .380 as the 9mm is a significantly more powerful cartridge. I could convert the gun by changing out the barrel (if a suitable conversion barrel could be found), but that would kind of defeat the purpose of owning and taking my CCW testing with an heirloom gun. I appreciate the warning though.

[Eye of Unk]

Reloading the .380 requires a little bit more experiance than a novice, an electronic scale is recommended and use only a single stage press, only a few tenths of a grain can lead to over pressure. Though the .380 may appear to be a 9mm Luger in short form it does have some different measurements at the base, if the extractor was able to work properly on the gun for a shortened 9mm case I would possibly try to reload it, but so far its a cartridge I do not have a die set for and probably won't buy one for.

[ArrogantBustard]

I don’t own a .380, so don’t reload it. I do reload 9x19, and I’m really careful to check charge weights and cartridge length. It’s awfully small ...

[wku man]

When they start kicking in doors, anywhere in the nation, they've crossed the Rubicon. I, for one, will not turn in anything I own, because it's my right to own them. To wait until they've established a beachhead is lunacy.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

[wku man]

Well, maybe it's because I feel "safe" here in God's Country, aka Idaho, but I'm not inclined to turn anything in, or explain away anything with plausible deniability. Those who live elsewhere may feel a bit more, if you'll excuse the bad pun, "under the gun".

It is my right, granted by God, protected by the US Constitution, and purchased again and again over the years by the blood of my fellow Americans, to keep and bear arms. Anyone who chooses, for whatever reason, to deprive me of my rights (any of them) had better pack a lunch, 'cause he's gonna be there all day.

I am an American...don't f*** with me.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

[SIDENET]

I, for one, will not turn in anything I own, because it's my right to own them.

I'll never turn in anything.

[wku man]

Amen, brother.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

[wku man]

Knowing how to distill liquor and brew beer might be good skills to have WTSHTF.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

[Titan Magroyne]

Bookmarking for sure, thanks!

[stevie_d_64]

My grandfather taught me well...

Cheers!

[GT Vander]

“Guns store well for centuries, as long as they’re kept from wet or extreme dampness. But how long do various types of ammo store, and under what conditions? I know most ammo is not nearly as hardy over the long term as guns (especially oil-coated guns), but what are the specifics. Can anybody provide solid info, or links to solid info? If there’s a way to package handgun and rifle cartridges for reliable 100 year storage (or even 50 year storage), I’d like to know what it is. Especially would like to know details of whether certain types of ammo are significantly more stable in long-term storage than others.”

GI Ammo cans with some type of moisture absorbant will work well. You can still buy WWII era ammo that shoots well, and the brass is better than what you get today.

[goarmy]

No such problems in central Ohio. Besides, I’m handloading.

[jurroppi1]

No kidding? Everywhere I’ve been they told me that shipments consist of a few scattered boxes of whatever ammo, and it’s gone almost immediately. This is in MN...

[Charlespg]

Bought some 22 LR at wally world and had to tell them if it was for rifle or hand gun .
Has any body else had this experence? (I live in NC)

[Osage Orange]

I hope you didn't answer.......

Or tell them to jam it.