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You may not have called for Sevenbak’s banning or hit the abuse button, but someone did. Because of that, we've lost yet another in a long line of arch conservatives here at FR. For me, that's beyond sad.

Sevenbak, as well as many more before him, shared most if not all the same views & passions towards conservatism. The difference? A different religious belief. For that, he was baited into an area he probably never wanted to go. His goal was simply to defend his religion & his God.

We as conservatives often wonder why we're losing the war of ideas, & we are losing that war. Part of the reason we're losing is due to spineless &/or corrupt political leaders. But another significant reason is that there is a faction of our movement that seems hell bent on eating their own. The scenario that just played out w/ Sevenbak is a glaring example of just that. We've lost yet another key player in the movement here at FR.

Can you imagine an independent that would come to this site, looking to see what conservatism is all about, just to find what a minority is able to do w/ other conservatives? The left paints conservatives as religious fanatics, & it resonates w/ many. Is there any wonder why considering what is found here? Instead of working on issues together to move the movement along, some are allowed to make this a site of holy wars. United we conquer, divided we fall, & will continue falling.

LDS rarely if ever start threads going after another religion. We simply defend our faith as do other religions (namely the Catholics). For that we are often vilified, & on a conservative site! I know some of you anti’s feel you're doing a good work for conservatism, doing the Lord's work. Do you really realize how many you're actually driving away? Do you realize how much the work is retarded by the inability to work for the common good, rather than just proving you're “right” on religious matters?

I don't think it's a coincidence that the last freepathon took about 2 months to complete. The LDS are a rather small contingent here & even w/ the conspiracy theory that's been bounded about here, w/ no validity I might add, we wouldn't add up to the lack of numbers we see.

I talk to others that were former freepers that have left b/c they feel the site has lost it's edge. They don't like the needless wars on matters that have nothing to do w/ conservatism. They hate coming here to see the carnage on a daily basis among those who should be fighting arm in arm. They don't have to visit the religious threads, but they do, just to see what's happening on that side. BTW, the vast majority of these formers I talk about are non LDS, some are even Evangelicals who are quite embarrassed by their brethren here.

As has become quite customary here, I'm sure I will be trashed now by the very ones of whom I write. It doesn't bother me. I deal w/ those that are far more skilled at their craft in the bus. world on a daily basis, thus have developed a tough skin. But ask yourself this, are you moving the conservative cause along by your actions, or just satisfying your narcissistic tendencies.

For some here, it's not about a search for the truth, or even sharing the truth they have found, rather just about the win. You may at times feel you've won a personal battle, but you may be costing us the conservative war. An exchange of ideas here, even though competing, & on religion at times when appropriate, is not bad. But when it gets personal, when you trash another b/c of their religious beliefs, when you start using the liberal playbook, then we weaken our efforts as conservatives.

That has been tolerated here for some time now. At what cost? To some, the FR has lost some of it's original identity. The repercussions are perhaps the price that has been paid. Just food for thought. Those that want a fight in the sandbox, not today, at least not for me. My best to my FRiends here & enemy alike.