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To: L,TOWM

What part of “In the BEGINNING...” is unclear?

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You do understand that we teach that Jesus is the word spoken of.

That you and I and Jesus were around as spirit children of our loving Father, who is our God, and how He had Jesus take charge in creating the earth under His guidance.

Is this your understanding of out teachings?


1,293 posted on 03/30/2009 11:57:51 AM PDT by fproy2222 (Jesus is the Christ)
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To: fproy2222; L,TOWM

“...I am a great admirer of Brigham Young and a great believer in his doctrinal presentations .... He was a mighty prophet.... Nonetheless, as Joseph Smith so pointedly taught, a prophet is not always a prophet, only when he is acting as such. Prophets are men and they make mistakes. Sometimes they err in doctrine .... Sometimes a prophet gives personal views which are not endorsed and approved by the Lord. Yes, President Young did teach that Adam was the father of our spirits, and all the related things that the cultists ascribe to him. This [i.e., Brigham Young’s teaching on Adam], however, is not true. He expressed views that are out of harmony with the gospel.” (Letter by Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, dated Feb. 19, 1981, pages 5 and 6; photographically reproduced in LDS Apostle Confesses Brigham Young Taught Adam-God Doctrine)


1,297 posted on 03/30/2009 11:59:53 AM PDT by SENTINEL (SGT USMC GWI)
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To: fproy2222; L,TOWM
Brigham Young once stated: "Now remember from this time forth, and for ever, that Jesus Christ was not begotten by the Holy Ghost" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, p.51).

"These name-titles all signify that our Lord is the only Son of the Father in the flesh. Each of the words is to be understood literally. Only means only; Begotten means begotten; and Son means son. Christ was begotten by an Immortal Father in the same way that mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers" Bruce R. McConkie (Mormon Doctrine, 1966, pp.546-47).

In the light of their understanding that God is a procreating personage of flesh and bone, latter-day prophets have made it clear that despite what it says in Matthew 1:20, the Holy Ghost was not the father of Jesus.... The Savior was fathered by a personage of flesh and bone, and was literally what Nephi said he was, "Son of the Eternal Father" (Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought, Autumn, 1967, pp.100-101).

President Brigham Young had this to say concerning the birth of Christ: "The man Joseph, the husband of Mary, did not, that we know of, have more than one wife, but Mary the wife of Joseph had another husband" (Deseret News, October 10, 1866).

Brigham Young added that "The birth of the Saviour was as natural as are the births of our children; it was the result of natural action. He partook of flesh and blood—was begotten of his Father, as we were of our fathers" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 8, p.115).

1,300 posted on 03/30/2009 12:02:26 PM PDT by SENTINEL (SGT USMC GWI)
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To: fproy2222
That you and I and Jesus were around as spirit children of our loving Father, who is our God

Keep reading John, buddy...Jesus was no "spirit child" and you may believe you were there, but I know I was not, although God knew all about before there was time and created good works for me to do....(See Ephesians Chapter 2, verses 8 & 9)

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God".

And yes, I understand your false teachings. I am not in the same league with Jesus and never will be. He will intercede for me with his Father on Judgement Day, but I will not get to be God of my own planet. And neither will you.

1,559 posted on 03/30/2009 3:13:47 PM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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